Saturday, September 12, 2020

MAYFLOWER SOCIETY ~ Episode 7–The final step–I’VE RECEIVED MY CERTIFICATE



I’m thrilled to tell you that I’ve received my “official” Mayflower Society member certificate.  It came in the mail 3 days ago.

I can now say that I am a proud member of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants.

This has been great journey.  I was going to say a long journey, but I really don’t think it took that long, taking into consideration some of these things.
  • It’s 2020 and this has been anything but a normal year.
  • More applications were and still are being submitted due to this being the 400th anniversary of the Mayflower landing.
  • The people that volunteer to process our applications and communicate with us are all working under unusual conditions.  I appreciate every one of them.
  • The process itself is said to take a while, under normal circumstances.
All in all it was fairly seamless for me.  Again, I’ll publicly thank the historians who assisted me along the way, Dianna Saario and David Grinell.
  • 22 Jun 2019 I mailed my preliminary Review Form 
  • September 2019 I got word that I could proceed with my application
  • December 2019 I mailed my application to the California historian
  • Beginning of January 2020 my application was approved by the two historians who reviewed it separately
  • End of January 2020 my completed application was mailed to Plymouth. They will have the final word
  • July 21, 2020 – I’M APPROVED! by the General Society in Plymouth
  • August 22, 2020 I’m approved and accepted in the California State Society and receive notice of both my state member number and by general society member number
  • September 9, 2020 – I received my certificate
I’ve now joined the San Diego Colony and this morning attended a zoom meeting as a bonified member.  I’d been attending for the past couple of years with my friend Debby.  Hoping one day to be a “real” member.  And now……I am.

If you’re interested in reading a step by step synopsis about my journey, and the process it took to become a Mayflower Society member, please click HERE.

A salute to my Mayflower passenger Edward Doty and all those who came over on that ship.  How brave they were.

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl
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Monday, August 31, 2020

MILITARY MONDAY ~ A Follow Up On My Yearbook Post–These Young Men Didn’t Make It Home to Their Families–Meet Glenn Gillen & Ellis Hart


A few days ago I wrote about finding yearbook photos on Ancestry.  As I was going through the photos I had, they included 2 young men who were in high school during or just before the time of World War I (1914-1918).  They ended up serving our country and sadly, they never came home.  They were killed in action.

Let’s honor those young men, here, today.

The first is Corporal Glenn Clifford Gillen.  Son of Elijah Cecil Gillen & Bessie Etta Cowen.  Glenn was born 1 Jan 1896 in Chesapeake, Lawrence, Ohio. He was the 3rd child of 9 born to this couple.  The second oldest son.  There were 6 boys and 3 girls.  All of his siblings lived to adulthood and, in fact, well into old age, except Glenn.  Glenn is my maternal 2nd cousin 3 times removed.

Glenn attended Independence High School in Independence, Montgomery, Kansas and if he graduated, it would have been about 1913-1914.  He is honored in the 1919 yearbook for this school on a memorial page for those lost during World War I.

Glenn registered for the draft in Montgomery, Independence, Kansas in June 1917.  He gives his age as 21 years, he’s single, and he works as a Laborer.  Physically he was described as tall, medium guild, gray eyes and brown hair.
  
Here is his World War I Registration Card

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Fifteen months after signing that draft registration card, Glenn Gillen was killed during the Meuse-Argonne battle in France.
Corporal Gillen is buried in the Meuse-Argonne American Cemetery and Memorial in France.  You may visit his memorial here #55992727.
Used with permission of the photographer
The second soldier we will honor today is Corporal Ellis Collins Hart.  Only son of Hermon Doten Hart & Florence Bell Hakins.  Ellis was born 27 Oct 1927 in Ohio.  He had one sibling, an older sister Caroline Harriet Hart (1926-2006).  Both of the children were adopted according to the 1930 census.
Ellis is my paternal 3rd cousin once removed.

Sadly, Ellis’ father Hermon D. Hart died in 1933, at the age of 44, while saving his daughter, Caroline from drowning.  Stay tuned for a post about that incident.

Ellis attended Jesup W. Scott High School in Toledo, Lucas, Ohio.  The photo I have for him from the yearbook lists his age as 16 in 1944.

Ellis did register for the World War II draft on 27 Oct 1945.  He was single and described as 5’ 8 1/2” tall, 165 pounds with brown hair, gray eyes and light complexion.  His mother, Florence is listed as his next of kin.  He was employed by the A.P. Tea Company.


Ellis enlisted in the Army as a Private on 7 Jan 1946.  This would have been after the end of World War II.  U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946.

So, Ellis enlisted in the Army in 1946.  Yet in 1950, when he was killed, he was serving with the U.S. Marine Corps, 2d Battalion, 7th Marine Division. 
  • What made Ellis change from one branch of the service to another? 
  • Is that a common occurrence?
  • Was there a draft for the Korean War? I don’t know.  I also have never located any service records for that war.
You can find references to Ellis’ Marine service and his being killed in action on the following links. He was killed by hostile fire on 3 Oct 1950 by gunshot or small arms fire.  He was a ground casualty.

U.S., Korean War Casualties, 1950-1957
U.S., Headstone Applications for Military Veterans, 1925-1963
Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current

You may visit his FindAGrave memorial here #194881515

Here is his headstone photo

Photo placed on findagrave.com by Moses and used with permission

I am happy to have honored these young men today.  May they always rest in peace.

If you are connected to any of the family I’ve written about today, I’d love to hear from you.

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A MOTHER’S PILGRIMAGE ~ Bessie Cowen Gillen's visit to the grave of Glenn C. Gillen ~ Killed in action in World War I

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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Friday, August 28, 2020

FRIDAY FINDS ~ What about Alice Evelyn Bullock, first wife of Robert W. Hall, Sr.?


It has been a while since I’ve tried to locate more information on the first wife of my husband’s paternal Uncle, Robert Walton Hall, Sr.  My husband, Ron, was very fond of his Uncle Bob.  When he was a young man, he worked for his Uncle at a gas station in San Diego.

I’ve written a previous blog post about the marriage of Robert W. Hall to Alice Evelyn Bullock on 15 Jul 1929.  You can read that blog post here WEDDING WEDNESDAY ~ Robert Walton Hall & Alice Evelyn Bullock – 1929

What I had not known until this week, was what became of Alice after she and Uncle Bob divorced?

Prior to the birth of her son, Alice was working for the telephone company (evidenced in the 1930 San Diego census).

In the 1934 San Diego city directory Robert and Evelyn are living at 4402 35th St. He is the manager of a Standard Gas Station.  Their son would have been 2 years old by this time.

(Please click on any image to enlarge it)
 
 

In the 1938 San Diego city directory listing I find Robt. W. Hall listed with Evelyn at 1132 Bush in San Diego.  It seems that Alice went by her middle name in most of the records I’ve located.


I don’t have online access to every year of the San Diego city directories. In addition to the ones online, I do know that some of them can be found at our downtown library here in San Diego.  It’s been some time since I’ve made the hour long trip down there.

The next hint I have about (let’s call her Evelyn from this point on) and her family is a 1940 census where her husband Robert W.,  is living with his parents and younger brother.  Bob is listed as divorced.


Where was Evelyn living in 1940?  I have found one census that seems to fit her.  An Evelyn B. Hall (she could be using her maiden name of Bullock as a middle initial), born in Rhode Island, divorced, working for the W.P.A. and the correct age to be our Evelyn.  She is living with an Orpha Doty (listing Evelyn as a sister).  However, I don't have a sister by the name of Orpha associated with Evelyn.  I need to go back to the Bullock family and see if there is a daughter I may have missed.  Or is this not Evelyn?  But, where is little Robert Jr.?  He would only have been 8 years old by now and I know he lived into adulthood (died on 16 Feb 2019 age 86).

Now that I’ve located both Bob and Evelyn, I need to go looking for young Robert Jr/ in 1940.

I looked with both sets of grandparents and didn’t find this young boy. So where was he living? I also did a image by image of the 41 pages of the 1940 census where I located that Evelyn B. Hall, mentioned above.  I found no Robert W. Hall listed.  No matter what spellings I used.

After 1940 we get into a time when records are not as easy to come by.  We don’t have the 1950 census yet and many vital records are restricted due to people still assumed to be living.

In searching city directories I have located several with Evelyn and her second husband, Harold E. Ray.  They were listed at the same residence in 1945, in San Diego.  Can we assume they were married?  Probably back then, yes. I don't have a marriage record for this couple yet either. 

Here are Evelyn and her husband Harold Ray in the 1967 San Diego city directory.


And here they are in the 1971 San Diego city directory, the year before her death.  Her obituary in Feb 1972 gives her address as 5521 Taft.


Here is the obituary for Evelyn (Mrs. Harold E. Ray).  She and Harold (he died in 1983) are buried at El Camino Memorial Park, San Diego, California.  You may visit their memorials here; Harold #213805315 and Evelyn #213805342

From the city directories to my locating her obituary and burial place, that would be all I can learn about Alice Evelyn Bullock Hall Ray.  At least at this time.

If anyone reading this has any additional information I would certainly welcome it. 

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Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl
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Thursday, August 27, 2020

YEARBOOK PHOTOS ~ How many have you located? Here are some of mine.

Ancestry has recently offered their Yearbook collection for free. I thought it might be a good time to review how many yearbook photos I have collected over the years.  I have an Ancestry subscription so I’ve been collecting yearbooks pictures for a while.

When I add a yearbook photo or information to Legacy I use an Event I created called….yes, you guessed it “Yearbook.”

I’ll use the Search feature in Legacy to determine how many people have Events with the yearbook title.  To do this I went to the tab “Search” then to “Find” and then used this method.

 (Please click on any image to enlarge it)

The list consisted of 32 people.  To be truthful, I was a little surprised that it was that small a list.  But, yearbooks haven’t always been around and I have quite a few ancestors who never went far enough in school to appear in a yearbook.  This does encourage me to go hunting for more photos though.

Once I have the list up on my screen, I then created a hash tag in Legacy and added that hash tag to all those individuals.  Going forward, each time I do locate a yearbook photo or article I can add the hash tag immediately.  I find the hash tag feature in Legacy to be very helpful.

After going through my list here are some of my photos.  About half of the list of 32 did not contain photos of the person, just their names in the yearbook.

Left-Robert Auten, 1944   Center - Raymond J. Nymberg, 1943  Right - Gordon Charles Hall, 1936

Left - Dorothy Louise Hall, 1926 Center - Virginia Carol Gould, 1963 Right - Clara Eaton, 1920

Left - Eleanor F. Poile, 1947  Center - Lawrence C. Diebel, Jr., 1947  Right - Mary Charlotte Horn, 1938

Left - Harriett M. Pickard, 1924   Right - Robert R. Corbett, 1960
Here is a list of the people shown above, their schools and their relationship to me.
  • Robert Auten - Mackenzie High, Detroit, MI, husband of my 1st cousin once removed
  • Raymond Nymberg - Mackenzie High, Detroit, MI, nephew of a cousin (I just noticed that the two men above went to the same school, I wonder if they knew one another?  They are from opposite sides of my family)
  • Gordon Charles Hall - San Diego State College, San Diego, CA, my husband's father
  • Dorothy Louise Hall - San Diego Teacher's College, San Diego, CA, my husband's aunt, sister of Gordon Hall
  • Virginia Carol Gould - Redford High, Detroit, MI, my paternal half sister
  • Clara Eaton - Huntington High, Huntington, WVA, wife of a 2nd cousin 3 times removed
  • Eleanor Florence Poile - Eastern High, Detroit, MI, wife of my 2nd cousin once removed (married Lawrence Diebel)
  • Lawrence C. Diebel - Eastern High, Detroit, MI, my 2nd cousin once removed
  • Mary Charlotte Horn - San Diego High, San Diego, CA - my husband's Uncle's wife
  • Harriet Mary Pickard - Northwestern High, Detroit, MI - my 1st cousin once removed
  • Robert R. Corbett - Redford High, Detroit, MI - my half sister's husband (he married Virginia Gould)

How many yearbook photos have you looked for?  How many have you found?  I’d love to hear about them.


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Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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Tuesday, August 18, 2020

TOMBSTONE TUESDAY ~ Mary A. Bolles Hall, second wife of Rev. George Hall–1816-1893

Headstone for Mrs. Mary A. Hall - courtesy of twilson99

I submitted a request for a photograph of this headstone, via FindAGrave, in 2015.  That request was fullfilled just this month.  Never give up on your requests.  

This headstone inscription reads as follows:
Mrs. Mary A. Hall
born August 10, 1816
died October 22, 1893
Asleep in Jesus

Mary A. Bolles is my husband’s 2nd great grandfather’s second wife.  She married Rev. George Hall a little over a year after the death of his first wife, Almira Rosette.  The marriage took place on 6 Oct 1859 in Jersey City, New Jersey.

There were 6 children born to George and Almira, so in 1859 there could have been at least 3 of those children still at home.  Those may have been Thomas, age 14, Susan, age 13 and Ellen, age 9.

Here is a newspaper extraction citing the marriage of Mary Ann and George.

U.S. Newspaper Extractions from the Northeast, 1704-1930
Name:    Mary Ann Bolles
Father:    Abial Bolles
Event:    Marriage
Marriage Date:    6 Oct 1859
Marriage Place:    Jersey City
Spouse:   George Hall
Newspaper:   Christian Intelligencer of the Reformed Dutch Church
Publication Date:   13 Oct 1859
Publication Place:  New York, USA
Call Number:   486384


Although I’ve tried for years, and just tried again today, I am unable to locate an 1860 census for Rev. Hall and Mary. 
I have located his three youngest children, Thomas, Susan and Ellen, all living with other people.

So, with no children at home and newly married, where did this couple reside in 1860?

I did locate them in the 1870 census, living in Fayette, Jefferson, Mississippi. At that time, George’s youngest daughter, Emily, was living with the couple.  George is still working in the ministry.  Mary is listed as keeping house.  Two years later, Emily aka Susan Emily, married John H. Griffing in Claiborne, Mississippi.

Here is the cropped portion of the 1870 census.
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Mary lost her husband George to yellow fever 4 Sep 1878 in Port Gibson, Claiborne, Mississippi.  Here’s a blog post I wrote about his death which includes a detailed obituary Sunday's Obituary - Rev. George Hall Victim of Yellow Fever – 1878

What happened to Mary after George’s death?  Yet, another census mystery.  I cannot locate her in the 1880 census.  However, I was able to find her in 2 city directories from her hometown of Charleston, South Carolina.  In both 1896 and 1890 she is living at 359 Meeting, in Charleston, and listed as “widow of George.”  I cannot find any record of her remarrying after his death in 1878.
Mary died on 22 Oct 1893 in her birthplace, Charleston, South Carolina.  Her cause of death was listed as Nervous prostration/old age.
 

Mary is buried at Second Presbyterian Church Cemetery in Charleston.  You may visit her memorial here #3586154.
 
NOTE – Just as I was finishing up this blog post, I decided to go over to Family Search and take a look for South Caroline records to see what I may have missed.  In doing so, I have located the actual death register for Mary.  The information on the register matches the death record I had already located.  But, nice to have that original register.


More information about Mary and some of my observations and questions:

  • I believe that Mary is the daughter of Edwin Abiel BOLLES and his wife Hannah A. PATTISON
  • She was 43 years old when she married Rev. Hall and I can locate no other marriage records for her.  In the 1850 census she was living with her parents and a few of her siblings.
  • She was married to Rev. Hall for 19 years, from 1859 until his death in 1878. 
  • I find no record of any children born to this couple. 
  • What did Mary like to do?  Did she volunteer?  Did she quilt?  Did she like to garden?  What was her life like for the 15 years after Rev. Hall died?  Was she employed someplace?
  • Someone provided a nice headstone for Mary.  Was it her siblings or other family?
  • I’ve searched on newspapers.com and genealogy bank and not found an obituary.
  • When you have no direct descendants, it’s nice to be remembered.  While Mary may not be a blood ancestor to my husband and his Hall family, I am still happy to recognize and remember her. 
If you are connected to the BOLLES family of Charleston, South Carolina, I would love to hear from you.

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl
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Tuesday, August 4, 2020

TUESDAY'S TIP ~ Republishing my Ancestry tip - Watch out for that checked box - How I finally located the 1870 census for my 3rd great grandparents

I've been instructing new and experienced researchers how to use Ancestry lately.  This question has come up "what about the match all terms box?"  
Here's a good explanation of why we should be careful it's not checked.......all the time.


US fed census match all

I’ve been researching my Thorp family for the past 15 years.  This is a direct line for me and I want to learn as much as I can about them.  My Dad always talked about his paternal grandparents, William Val Gould and May Thorp Gould.  He called his grandmother Mema (pronounced Mee Ma).

During this research I was able to locate every census for my 3rd great grandparents, Monson Thorp, Sr. and his wife Lany Cooper Thorp…….except the 1870 census.  They married on 12 Apr 1835 in Cato, Cayuga, New York and had 6 children.  I located them in the 1840, 1850, 1860 and 1880 federal census records.   I also have several newspaper articles about Monson Thorp.  I have death certificates and wills for Monson and Lany.  From everything I found about them, they never left New York.

But, that 1870 census eluded me.

Yesterday, I was doing research for an upcoming blog post about their daughter Mary J. Thorp.  In doing so, I went yet again to those census records trying to find Monson and Lany in 1870.  While I was looking at census records for Mary J. Thorp, I decided to try once again to find Monson and Lany in 1870.

I’ve been doing this for over 15 years.  I’ve learned a LOT during that time.  I consider myself to be an experienced researcher, who is still learning every day.  I continue to attend seminars, conferences and classes each year to learn more.  We never stop learning.

I’m certain I have searched the census records using variations of Monson’s first and last name, along with variations for Lany.  Those names are often misspelled or transcribed incorrectly.  So, what was I doing wrong in my searches?

Had I done this exact search before?  Searched ONLY the 1870 census records?  Used this specific criteria?  I may never know, but it worked this time!!!!

I searched All Collections>Census and Voter Lists>US Federal Census Collection>1870 United States Federal Census and entered my criteria.

SPECIAL NOTE:  I kept screenshots after I made this find yesterday.  I just tried to reproduce the search and COULD NOT get it to come up with the result.  WHAT!  WHY?  I’ll tell you why, because up at the top of the search screen, next to the “search” icon is a box that says “Match all terms exactly.”  GUESS WHAT?  That box was checked by default.  Are you kidding me?  Every single time I went to the collections that “match all terms exactly” box is checked.  Yesterday, that box must have been unchecked for some reason. This means I need to go back to a LOT of my prior searches for other ancestors.

Back to my find.  Here’s the screen shot with the “match all terms exactly” unchecked.

THORP_search criteria

And, look what came up from my search.  ONE record and ONLY one.  Notice anything wrong with the surname spelling?  Regardless of that horrible misspelling, I knew this had to be my Munson.

THORP_search results

I selected the record and here is the index and access to the image.  The surname is wrong, (indexed as THERSSE), but all the green stars are correct for my ancestor and his wife Lany.

THORP_search results-2 - Copy

And finally the image.  Here they are at last.  Living right where I suspected they’d be, in Skaneateles, New York.

 Copy of 1870_THORP_Monson & Lany_SkaneatelesNY

My take a way from all of this is that darn check box.  Keep an eye out.  Maybe I’m the only one who didn’t think to look for that default “match all exactly.”  Did you know about it?

US fed census match all

If you have similar stories about having searched for a record for years and then having found it, I’d love to hear about it.

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Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl


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Wednesday, July 22, 2020

MAYFLOWER SOCIETY ~ Episode 6–I’M IN!


IT’S OFFICIAL – During the 400th anniversary year - I received an email from the California Historian, last evening at 5:20.  

My application has been approved by Plymouth!!

Talk about a happy dance  

Here’s the email I received from the California Mayflower Society historian, David.

Next step – Notify the San Diego Colony, if they haven’t already been notified.  They will officially add me as a member at a future meeting.  I prefer to have this done in person, rather than via Zoom, so I’ll wait.  I remember attending the meeting when my friend, Debby Warner Anderson was admitted to the colony.  I’m looking forward to it.

I’ve heard from another of the officials, today, that my certificate will be mailed to me.  Once I get it, I will be sharing it here on my blog.

I’m now a proud member of the DAR and the Mayflower Society.  What’s next?
 
Good question.  Those two memberships have always been on my “to do” list.  I have a LOT more ancestors to research and more than a few to find.  I will continue my research.  AND, I will likely begin another application process to add names to my membership in the Mayflower Society.  But, I will wait a year or so before going down that road.
 
To read about my entire journey, please click here Mayflower Society.

If you’ve been inspired by me or someone else to begin the application process, I’d love to hear about it in a comment or on your own blog.

Consider me “still smiling in Ramona”
Michigan Girl
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WEDDING WEDNESDAY ~ Marriage of my 6th great grandparents–William Lunsford & Rebeckah Basye in 1745


Today’s post is about my maternal 6th great grandparents, William Lunsford also spelled Lunceford and Rebeckah Basye.  I know very little about this couple.  I only recently added them as the parents of Reuben Lunsford (about 1769 to about 1845).  My hope is that someone seeing this post will exchange/share information with me about this couple and their family.

The marriage record I have for them is from Virginia, Marriages of the Northern Neck of Virginia, 1649-1800.


I am descended from this couple as follows:

William Lunsford & Rebeckah Basye – 6th great grandparents

Reuben Lunsford & Mary Margaret Dennison – 5th great grandparents

John Lunsford & Mary “Polly” Sackville Hudson – 4th great grandparents

Nancy Delilah Lunsford & William Allen Boggs – 3rd great grandparents

Susan Caroline Boggs & James Gillen Hunter – 2nd great grandparents

Florence Hunter & Robert Edward Lee Bowden – great grandparents

Florence Lee Nora Bowden & Joseph Albert Milne – grandparents

Patricia Milne & Harry Norman Gould – parents

Me

On Ancestry you can place your DNA matches into groups.  I have created groups for my 8 great grandparents.  There are 298 matches in the LUNSFORD group.  And, that’s only the ones I’ve found so far.

Please get in touch if you are connected with the Lunsford line.  I always enjoy meeting new cousins and exchanging information.

I’ve written several other blog posts about my Lunsford line – you may read some of them by clicking on the links below:

CIVIL WAR PENSION RECORD FOR WILLIAM LUNSFORD - How I began my review and some of what I found

TREASURE CHEST THURSDAY - Birth Records for twins and others on one register page

SIBLING SATURDAY - 16 siblings - the children of John & Mary Lunsford

MILITARY MONDAY - Sgt. Presley Lunsford - Killed in Action during the Civil War - 1864

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl

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Wednesday, July 15, 2020

My First Webinar Presentation happened last Saturday ~ Thank you to my co-presenter Debby Warner Anderson and the San Diego Genealogical Society


What fun.  I am honored to have been asked by the San Diego Genealogical Society to prepare a presentation about the Mayflower Society.  They asked my good friend and fellow blogger Debby Warner Anderson and I if we would prepare a presentation together about our experiences in applying for and joining the Mayflower Society  

What could be better than working with a good friend?  Debby and I have presented together one other time, on a much smaller scale.  

The presentation took place last Saturday, July 11 at 10 a.m. pacific time.  Since our society isn’t meeting in person right now, we presented via Zoom. 

I have attended webinars and church services via Zoom, but never been a presenter using this venue.  I’ve done quite a few classes in person, so this was a new experience.  However, since Debby has had to use Zoom for her work, she was quite comfortable with it.  (Side note – she retired on July 1st – Congratuations to her!)

The topic for our presentation was:

The Mayflower Society

Have you ever wondered what the Mayflower Society is all about?  How to find your Mayflower passenger ancestor, the application process, the events, the costumes?  This presentation will take you on our journeys as we researched, applied and hoped to become members of this unique group of men and women in order to help preserve their heritage and history.

We received a lot of positive feedback.  The attendees asked some very good questions.

Debby and I had a great time working together.  I hope we’ll be invited to speak again on this subject, perhaps by another genealogy society.

I am not able to put a link to our presentation here on my blog.  It is in the members only section of the San Diego Genealogical Society's website.

Here though, is a list of the resources that Debby and I included with our presentation.  The links won't be live, but you could download this list and enter the links manually.  Usually sites pop up pretty quickly without you having to type the entire URL.


Here is a link to upcoming presentations sponsored by SDGS. There are some good ones coming up.  All are free and most are for anyone, whether a member or not.

Here’s the link to the calendar page SDGS upcoming events 

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl

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Thursday, July 9, 2020

MAYFLOWER SOCIETY –Episode 5–An update on my application process and a link to a presentation

I wrote my last post about my journey to join the Mayflower Society, in December 2019.  I thought I would give you a quick update.

If you want to read my previous posts about my journey to join the society please click here Mayflower Society

My completed application package was mailed on 27 Jan 2020.  The approval process in Plymouth is said to take 3-5 months in normal situations.  One thing we can say about 2020, it hasn’t been normal. 

The process for everything can be delayed in these unusual times we are living in.  Reviewing and approving society applications is no different.  It’s been over 6 months now and I still have no word. 

However, I completely understand.  I have heard that they are known to be up to applications that were submitted in December 2019.  Mine can’t be too far behind, since it should have arrived in Plymouth the last days of January or first days of February.

I’d like to say I’m waiting patiently…………but, I’m pretty much checking my mail all the time to see if there is an envelope from the Mayflower Society.  I even have our mail lady (who’s the best ever) on the lookout.  Our boxes are 3 miles from our house so we don’t check the mail each day.  She says she’ll text me if she sees anything from the Mayflower Society. 

I continue to be hopeful that I will hear back soon.

In the meantime, my friend and fellow blogger Debby Warner Anderson (Debby’s Family Genealogy Blog) and I are co presenting to the San Diego Genealogical Society this Saturday, July 11th at 10 a.m. via Zoom.  Our topic ~ How to Find Your Mayflower Passenger AncestorThis presentation is open to all, so if you’d like to register to attend, here is the link https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_TCv4jvm1RyWqedWT42mZ-A 

You’ll be among the first to know, when I get that envelope in the mail.

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl

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Monday, July 6, 2020

MOTIVATIONAL MONDAY ~ One thing leads to another–my husband’s FISHER line–his 8th great grandparents….and wait! Also a link to the MORSE line?


This is not the first time that I've discovered who someone's parents were in a round about way.  It's always a fun journey.  Here's how it happened this time.

While I was working on my post for Jeremiah Hall, Jr. who died in the Revolutionary War at the tender age of 16 – you can read that post here REVOLUTIONARY WAR SOLDIER JEREMIAH HALL, JR. - Killed in Action when he was 16 yrs. old,  I began looking at the FISHER line that is connected to the HALL line.  In doing so I saw new Ancestry hints pop up.  One of those hints was from a book called The Fisher genealogy: record of the descendants of Joshua, Anthony and Cornelius Fisher of Dedham, Mass., 1630-1640.  I immediately recognized the name Cornelius Fisher.  You all know we have those hundreds of names running around in our heads and it helps us when we are reviewing any document or book.

There on page 10 was Cornelius Fisher’s name AND all of Anthony Fisher’s children (I already had Anthony Fisher as the father of Cornelius Fisher, Sr) AND the name Daniel MORSE.

Why did Daniel Morse’s name pop out at me?  Because I know there is a Daniel Morse in my husband’s family line, back about the correct time and in the correct place. 

First though, I looked at this entire page to see if I’m right in my assumption that this is "my husband's" Fisher line.

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I find the following entry:

Children by first wife and born in England;

  • Anthony, m. Joanna Faxon, Sept. 7, 1674
  • Cornelius, m. 1st Leah Heaton and 2d Sarah Everett (this is an exact match to what I have in my tree)
  • Nathaniel, m. Esther Hunting, Dec. 26, 1649
  • Daniel, m. Abigail Marriot, Nov. 16, 1641
  • Lydia, m. Daniel Morse of Sherborn [Morses’s Sherborn, p. 178; Morse Memorial, p 20]
  • John, d. in Dedham, July 15, 1638

I quickly went into my office aka the Genie Cave and opened Legacy.  There she was Lydia Fisher married to Daniel Morse.  My entry had both of them dying in Sherborn, Massachusetts.  OK, this is good. 

Oh, look at that!  I have no parents listed for Lydia Fisher.  I hadn’t yet done enough research on her, to be able to add her parents.  Now I can link her to Anthony Fisher and Mary Buckingham as her parents and show her as a sister to Cornelius Fisher, Sr.

Since Anthony Fisher and Mary Buckingham are my husband’s direct line – 8th great grandparents I want to know more about them.  This Fisher book is going to tell me more.  It will be up to me to verify and find evidence for the entries in the book.  But, isn’t that the fun part?

I hope this post has motivated you to keep checking those hints on Ancestry or whatever site your using. 

Off I go to research.  I hope to be sharing more about the Fisher line in the near future.

I always enjoy hearing from others who are researching the same lines I am.  Please get in touch, if that applies to you.

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl

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Saturday, July 4, 2020

REVOLUTIONARY WAR SOLDIER JEREMIAH HALL, JR–Killed in Action when he was 16 yrs old–24 Jan 1776

Today I’d like to honor a young man who fought and died for our independence during the Revolutionary War.

His name was Jeremiah Hall, Jr.  He was the son of Dr. Jeremiah Hall (1722-1807) and Elizabeth Bailey (1727-1816). Jeremiah was one of 7 children born to this couple.  Five daughters and two sons.

The senior Jeremiah Hall also served in the Revolutionary War for the Continental Troops, as a doctor.1

What little information I can find about young Jeremiah is his birth record and his death and burial record.  I have tried to locate his service record on Fold3 and Ancestry, but have not located it…yet.
Jeremiah was born 20 Dec 1759 in Pembroke, Plymouth, Colonial Massachusetts.  Here is a written record of his birth and an index.

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Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988
Name:    Jeremiah Hall
Event Type:    Birth
Birth Date:    20 Dec 1759
Birth Place:    Pembroke, Massachusetts
Father Name:    Jeremiah Hall
Mother Name:    Elizabeth
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Jeremiah was the fourth child and first son, born to Dr. Jeremiah and his wife.  He had three older sisters, Dorothy age 6, Lawrentia age 4 and Lucretia age 2.  Along comes Jeremiah to fill the house with the inevitable sounds of a new baby and later the noise of a little boy.  Did his sisters dote on him I wonder?  Or was some of the usual sibling rivalry in play between the three girls and this new comer?  They didn’t have too long to think about it because the next child, another son they named Bailey, was born 2 1/2 years later in 1761, followed by two more sisters, Sarah and Lucinda.

Along comes the fight for independence and young Jeremiah signs up.  Did he tell his parents or did he just go and sign up?  What would they have thought?  He was so young and there was the usual danger of fighting in any military situation.  Especially against the British.  Afterall, they were a centuries old army, well trained and used to battle.  Not farmers and blacksmiths, store clerks and teenage boys, like those in this young country. 

I’d like to find the military records for Jeremiah.  I will keep digging online.  But, I will search in earnest when I next visit the Family History Library in Salt Lake City.

The next records I have for this young man, are related to his death.
Here are the two indexes.  Note his age is listed as 17 because the birth date gives only a year.  But having his exact birth date, put his age at death as 16 years, 1 month and 4 days.

Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988
Name:    Jeremiah Hall Jr
Event Type:    Death
Birth Date:    abt 1759
Death Date:    24 Jan 1776
Death Place:    Pembroke, Massachusetts
Death Age:    17
Father Name:    Jeremiah Hall
Mother Name:    Elizabeth Hall


Massachusetts, Compiled Birth, Marriage, and Death Records, 1700-1850
Name:    Jeremiah Hall Jr
Gender:    Male
Death Age:    17
Event Type:    Death
Birth Date:    abt 1759
Death Date:    24 Jan 1776
Death Place:    Pembroke, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA
Father:    Jeremiah Hall
Mother:    Elizabeth Hall



The entry in this index of Pembroke Deaths states: Hall, Jeremiah Jr., s. Dr. Jeremiah and Elizabeth, Jan 24, 1776, a. 17, “In the service of his country, opposing Brita’s Tryanny & Britain’s Tyrant.” G.R.I.  (I have transcribed it exactly as it was entered)

You may visit Jeremiah’s memorial on FindAGrave here #142810511.  I have requested a photograph of his headstone, if there is one.  I hope there is.

I am grateful to this young man and all those who fought in our war for independence.  RIP

If you have a connection to this family, I’d love to hear from you.
 
Was young Jeremiah encouraged to join the fight because of his father’s involvement?  Here is a post I wrote about a letter from Jeremiah’s father to George Washington in 1775 Dr. Jeremiah Hall writes a letter to George Washington

Sources: 1 - Ancestry.com. U.S., Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2007.  Original data: Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M246, 138 rolls); War Department Collection of Revolutionary War Records, Record Group 93; National Archives, Washington. D.C.

OTHER POSTS ABOUT THIS FAMILY THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST
Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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