Showing posts with label Ancestry searches. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ancestry searches. Show all posts

Tuesday, August 4, 2020

TUESDAY'S TIP ~ Republishing my Ancestry tip - Watch out for that checked box - How I finally located the 1870 census for my 3rd great grandparents

I've been instructing new and experienced researchers how to use Ancestry lately.  This question has come up "what about the match all terms box?"  
Here's a good explanation of why we should be careful it's not checked.......all the time.


US fed census match all

I’ve been researching my Thorp family for the past 15 years.  This is a direct line for me and I want to learn as much as I can about them.  My Dad always talked about his paternal grandparents, William Val Gould and May Thorp Gould.  He called his grandmother Mema (pronounced Mee Ma).

During this research I was able to locate every census for my 3rd great grandparents, Monson Thorp, Sr. and his wife Lany Cooper Thorp…….except the 1870 census.  They married on 12 Apr 1835 in Cato, Cayuga, New York and had 6 children.  I located them in the 1840, 1850, 1860 and 1880 federal census records.   I also have several newspaper articles about Monson Thorp.  I have death certificates and wills for Monson and Lany.  From everything I found about them, they never left New York.

But, that 1870 census eluded me.

Yesterday, I was doing research for an upcoming blog post about their daughter Mary J. Thorp.  In doing so, I went yet again to those census records trying to find Monson and Lany in 1870.  While I was looking at census records for Mary J. Thorp, I decided to try once again to find Monson and Lany in 1870.

I’ve been doing this for over 15 years.  I’ve learned a LOT during that time.  I consider myself to be an experienced researcher, who is still learning every day.  I continue to attend seminars, conferences and classes each year to learn more.  We never stop learning.

I’m certain I have searched the census records using variations of Monson’s first and last name, along with variations for Lany.  Those names are often misspelled or transcribed incorrectly.  So, what was I doing wrong in my searches?

Had I done this exact search before?  Searched ONLY the 1870 census records?  Used this specific criteria?  I may never know, but it worked this time!!!!

I searched All Collections>Census and Voter Lists>US Federal Census Collection>1870 United States Federal Census and entered my criteria.

SPECIAL NOTE:  I kept screenshots after I made this find yesterday.  I just tried to reproduce the search and COULD NOT get it to come up with the result.  WHAT!  WHY?  I’ll tell you why, because up at the top of the search screen, next to the “search” icon is a box that says “Match all terms exactly.”  GUESS WHAT?  That box was checked by default.  Are you kidding me?  Every single time I went to the collections that “match all terms exactly” box is checked.  Yesterday, that box must have been unchecked for some reason. This means I need to go back to a LOT of my prior searches for other ancestors.

Back to my find.  Here’s the screen shot with the “match all terms exactly” unchecked.

THORP_search criteria

And, look what came up from my search.  ONE record and ONLY one.  Notice anything wrong with the surname spelling?  Regardless of that horrible misspelling, I knew this had to be my Munson.

THORP_search results

I selected the record and here is the index and access to the image.  The surname is wrong, (indexed as THERSSE), but all the green stars are correct for my ancestor and his wife Lany.

THORP_search results-2 - Copy

And finally the image.  Here they are at last.  Living right where I suspected they’d be, in Skaneateles, New York.

 Copy of 1870_THORP_Monson & Lany_SkaneatelesNY

My take a way from all of this is that darn check box.  Keep an eye out.  Maybe I’m the only one who didn’t think to look for that default “match all exactly.”  Did you know about it?

US fed census match all

If you have similar stories about having searched for a record for years and then having found it, I’d love to hear about it.

OTHER POSTS THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST

FOLLOWING LEADS ON ANCESTRY– One thing leads to another

OCCUPATION FILES ON ANCESTRY–1600-1995–What are they? Have you seen these?

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl


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ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.  NO USE WITHOUT PERMISSION

Friday, September 30, 2016

FRIDAY FINDS ~ Probate records you can find on Ancestry–1600’s, 1700’s .....and more


This has been a very fun week.  Taking a look at some of my husband’s ancestors on Ancestry, I located one probate record, which lead me to other probate records.

Sometimes you won’t see these records come up as hints when you look at the people in your tree.  However, if you go directly to the database by searching for records in a particular state, you will find these treasures.

TIP:  For finding records by state on Ancestry, go to the menu at the top and use “Search.”  Then “All Collections,” scroll down the page and click on the specific state on the map.  That will bring up every collection available for that state.  I use this search method quite often and find it very useful.

Ancestry search


The Connecticut,  Wills and Probate Records section has  327,217 resources.
Ancestry connecticut wills
I located the following records which contain wonderful proof of family connections and, of course, proof of the year or exact date of death of the ancestor.

CLARKE, Theophilus – 1737 – 6th great grandfather of my husband
CLARK, Deacon Simeon – 1793 – 4th great granduncle of my husband
HALL, Cornelius Clark – 1815 – 3rd great grandfather of my husband
WHEELOCK, Jonathan -  1798 -  5th great grandfather of my husband

I haven’t yet transcribed these records.  I’ve read most of them over once and entered them in my Legacy database.  It takes time to crop, straighten and organize them, depending on how many pages.  Then I save them as JPG images.  Next, I convert those images to one PDF file so that the entire record can be viewed as one document.  Stay tuned for those transcriptions.
 
Here are some pages from the records I located:

Copy of CLARK_Theophilus_probate record & will_1737_Connecticut-pg 1_cropped_annotated
1737 - Theophilus Clark - page 1
CLARK_Simeon Deacon_probate & last will_New Hampshire_pg 1-annotated
1793 - Deacon Simeon Clark - page 1
HALL_Cornelius Clark_probate_New Hampshire_pg 2_inventory_annotated
1815 - Cornelius Clark Hall - Inventory page

I’m sure most of you have used probate records in your research.  But, in going back to some of the online records I looked at in previous years, I’ve found many new records added.  Might be worth a peek.

OTHER RECORDS THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST

WHAT CAN YOU LEARN FROM A PROBATE RECORD?

AMANEUNSIS MONDAY ~ Samuel Morse Probate 1654

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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Friday, April 4, 2014

PASSPORT APPLICATIONS–SO MUCH INFORMATION!


passport-us

We all love to find records that are rich in genealogical information.  Dates & names & places are what we hunt for all the time. 

Today I was doing a bit of research on my FRAMPTON line.  This is a surname on my maternal side.  I was working on the children of my 4th Great Granduncle, Rev. Elijah Frampton, Sr. and his wife, Lucinda Trowbridge.  They had 4 children that I know of.

FRAMPTON_Mendal G_photo from Passport Application_1922
PASSPORT PHOTO FOR MENDAL G. FRAMPTON


 From that research I was led to a grandson of Elijah & Lucinda Frampton, named Mendal G. Frampton.   I entered him on my tree in Ancestry (after entering him in my Legacy database).  Then what do I see.  Shaky leaves. You know.  Those tempting hints at the top of your Ancestry page.  

It’s not my practice to look at each one of those shaky leaves, every day.  However, when I have entered new people and that leaf begins shaking right away, I can’t help but wonder what might be there.  



What I found were several records for Mendal G. Frampton.  One of those records was a United States Passport Application.  

US passport page from ancestry
ANCESTRY PAGE FOR ENTERING YOUR SEARCH CRITERIA

I have only run across a couple of these in all my research.  Apparently my family didn’t go overseas much.  OR, I just haven’t researched the right members of the family yet. 


FRAMPTON_Mendall_Passport application_27 May 1922_page 1
PAGE 1 OF APPLICATION FOR MENDAL G. FRAMPTON
FRAMPTON_Mendall_Passport application_27 May 1922_page 2
PAGE 2 OF APPLICATION FOR MENDAL G. FRAMPTON INCLUDING A NOTE SIGNED BY HIS MOTHER


 
PAGE 3 OF APPLICATION INCLUDING A PHOTO OF HIS WIFE


WHAT A RICH SOURCE OF INFORMATION!

WHAT MIGHT YOU FIND ON AN APPLICATION?
  • Name
  • Exact DOB
  • Place of birth
  • Father’s name
  • Current residence
  • Occupation
  • Complete physical description of the applicant
  • Signature of the applicant
  • Photograph of the applicant
  • Letter or statements from family members
  • Where & when they were traveling
If that isn’t a genealogist’s dream, I don’t know what is. 

WHAT WILL I DO NEXT?

I will enter all the information from the application into my Legacy database and cite my source.  Then I will begin looking for other documentation that will bring additional evidence of the facts stated on the passport application.  Since applicant’s have to have a notary verify their identity, it’s highly likely that the information is correct.  Do people try to lie and use false information?  Of course, some do.  But, that’s exactly why you look for additional sources for the data you found.

What I did find from this application was the name of Mendal’s wife.  I then searched the Ancestry database for her passport application and found it.  

That’s all for today.  I just wanted to share this with you, in case you haven’t played around with this particular set of records yet.

OTHER POSTS THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST
SHAKY LEAVES ON ANCESTRY
FOLLOWING LEADS ON ANCESTRY
HOW I FOLLOW A TRAIL OF RECORDS - PART 1 
HOW I FOLLOW A TRAIL OF RECORDS - PART 2 
HOW I FOLLOW A TRAIL OF RECORDS - PART 3
 
Back I go to look for more passport applications.

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl

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ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.  NO USE WITHOUT PERMISSION