Wednesday, May 27, 2015

WORKDAY WEDNESDAY–What kind of work did your ancestors do?

blacksmith linenweaver Railway Workers in the 1900's

I thought it would be fun to create a list of occupations from my Legacy database.

What kinds of various occupations did my ancestors engage in? 
In order for this to work you have to have entered “Occupation” under the Events for that individual.  Of course you could title it anyway you want to by customizing that field, but I use occupation.
 
It looks like I have 154 people in my database for which I have listed occupations.  That’s not very many in a database with 4621 individuals.
 
I suspect there are many more males than females with occupations listed on various documents.  Let’s check and see how many of these individuals are male, female, unknown?

Males = 2413        Females = 2181      Unknown = 27
The unknowns appear to be infants or children for whom I have no information.

TIP:  To locate your occupations list in Legacy click on the “Search” tab and then click on “Find.”  Select the following in the drop down lists: Individual, Event name, Equal to or Contains, Occupation.

Here is a link to a previous post detailing how to use the Legacy Search Function. http://www.michiganfamilytrails.com/2014/04/legacy-8the-search-functionwhat-can-you.html

My list contains 89 different occupations.  I lumped some of them together such as, Railroad Conductor, Railroad Brakeman and listed them as Railroad Employee.  I will create a more detailed list at a later time.

Here is a list of the occupations:
Agriculture laborer
Attorney
Auto dealer
Auto mechanic
Baggage handler
Bank clerk
Bartender
Beautician
Blacksmith
Bookkeeper
Box sawyer
Brass finisher
Broker
Carpenter
Census enumerator
Cigar manufacturer
City Clerk
Clergyman
Constable
Contractor
Court clerk
Dairyman
Deputy treasurer
Detective
Directory clerk
Driver
Electrician helper
Engineer
Farmer
Fireman
Foreman
Fuel dealer
Furniture dealer
General dealer
Glassblower
Hammersman
Hotel keeper
Housekeeper
Insurance Solicitor
Interior decorator
Joiner
Linen weaver
Linotypist
Machine Operator
Machinist
Marine engineer yard
Mason
Mechanical Engineer
Merchant at wood
Metal technician
Miller
Milliner
Millwright
Music teacher
Musician
Newspaper circulation manager
Organ builder
Painter
Peddler
Photographer
Physician
Police officer
Postmaster
Pressman
Printer
Printer's Devil
Private industry employee
Produce salesman
Production change analyst
Railroad employee
Realtor
Revenue Clerk
Saddler
Salesman
Saw Milling
Seaman
Secretary
Sign writer
Stationary Engineer
Stenographer
Superintendent
Tanner
Teacher
Tool crib operator
Truck driver
Wagon maker
Watchman
Wheel maker

What an interesting array of jobs.  I have created a spreadsheet for this list which will allow me to keep track and add, modify or delete items.

Most of my ancestors were blue collar.  Lots of farmers, machinists, laborers and of course housekeepers.  I’ve only found a handful of physicians, attorneys etc.
   
Have you ever created such a list?  If so, what did your list reveal?

OTHER POSTS THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST
 Occupation Files on Ancestry - 1600-1995 - What are they?  Have You Seen These?

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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Tuesday, May 26, 2015

TOMBSTONE TUESDAY - My 3rd great grandparents - Monson & Lany Thorp

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Lany, wife of Monson Thorp died July 16 1886 aged 71 years 5 mos
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Monson Thorp died May 17 1888 aged 87 years 3 mos
Monson Thorp and his wife Lany Cooper are my 3rd great grandparents.  He was born in Connecticut 27 Feb 1801 to Joseph Thorp and an unknown mother (still looking for her name).  Lany Cooper was born 16 Feb 1815 in Cato, Cayuga, New York to Jacob Cooper & Polly Bryne.  They married on 12 Apr 1835 in Cato, Cayuga, New York.  They had 6 children, Horace, Lucyette, Stephen, Mary, Edith and Monson Jr.

I recently discovered that Monson had been married prior to Lany to Ann Eliza Armitage.  To them were born two children, Ann Maria & Reverend Wallace Walter.
 
Monson & Lany are buried at Lakeview Cemetery,  Skaneateles, Onondaga, New York, Lake View Cemetery Entrance_Skaneateles NYalong with other family members.  I do not yet know where Ann, his first wife, is buried. Here is a link to the Village of Skaneateles website where they have a list of Lakeview Cemetery burials http://www.villageofskaneateles.com/village-government/boards/cemetery-board.html

Here are links to their FindAGrave memorials:
Monson
Lany

While I know quite a bit about this family, I hope to learn more  during my upcoming trip to the Family History Library in Salt Lake City.

DESCENDANCY FROM MONSON & LANY THORP
Horace Henry Thorp & Catherine Dorsey
Mary “Mae” Eve Thorp & William “Val” Gould
Harry W. Gould & Marie W. Lindsay
H. Norman Gould & Patricia A. Milne

please contact me if you think you might be related, even remotely, to anyone mentioned in this blog.

OTHER POSTS THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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Sunday, May 24, 2015

HONORING THOSE WITH MILITARY SERVICE IN OUR FAMILY

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This is the day we honor those who have served in our military through the years. From the Revolutionary War through Operation Enduring Freedom, brave men & women have fought for our freedom.

HONOR ROLL FROM OUR FAMILY
BARBOUR John - Civil War
BERRY Thomas - Civil War
BRIGHT William - Civil War
CHATFIELD Emery E. - World War II
CLARK Bemis - World War I
CORNELIUS Joseph E. - World War II
CRESSE William - Civil War
CURRY William B. - World War I – died of influenza
CUTCHER Andrew - Civil War
FINK Dorothy - World War II
FITZCHARLES George - World War I – killed in action
FLOWER Rodney - Civil War
FRAMPTON Arthur - Revolutionary War
FRAMPTON Isaac - Civil War
FRAMPTON John - Revolutionary War
FRAMPTON Samuel - Revolutionary War
FRAMPTON William II - Revolutionary War
GAYLORD James - Civil War
GAYLORD John - Civil War
GILLEN Elijah F. - Civil War
GILLEN Martin - Civil War
GOULD Harry Norman - Viet Nam era
HALL George F. - Civil War
HALL Gordon C. - World War II
HALL Robert W. - World War II
HALL Thomas C. - Civil War
HIBBARD Augustine - Revolutionary War
HUMPHRIES Lorenzo - Civil War
HUMPHRIES Richard F. - Civil War – killed in action
HUMPHRIES William M. - Civil War
HUNT James - Civil War
INGRAHAM Joseph A. - Civil War
KING Joseph E. - World War II
KING William A. - World War I
LONG Marion N. - World War II
LUNSFORD Andrew J. - Civil War

LUNSFORD Levi - Civil War
LUNSFORD Pleasant - Civil War – killed in action
LUNSFORD Reuben - Civil War

LUNSFORD William - Civil War
McKNIGHT Anthony - Civil War – died of Typhoid Fever
McNICHOL Allan - World War I
MILNE Robert A. - World War II
MURNAHAN Hiram - Civil War
PRATT Josiah Jr. - War of 1812
PRATT Josiah Sr. - Revolutionary War
SINE John S. - Civil War
SUMNER Abel B. - War of 1812
SURDAM George - Civil War
THOMPSON Sherrod B. - World War I
THOMPSON William D. - Civil War
THORNTON Robert D. - World War II
THORP Lee T. - World War I
THORP Stephen - Civil War
THORP Rev. Wallace W. - Civil War
THORP Walter B. - Civil War
VERMILLION Jesse - Civil War
VERNEY James G. - World War I
VERNEY Norman J. - World War I

WEBB, Carl E. – World War II – killed at Pearl Harbor on the Arizona
ZIMMERMAN, John W. – Active during Viet Nam


I wish we could live in a world without war. 
God bless those who have served and in doing so, gave everything for our freedom.  We cannot thank them enough.

If you know of a family member I have left off of this list, please contact me.

OTHER POSTS ABOUT OUR MILITARY
Pearl Harbor Day - December 7th - We Remember
Civil War Dead and Our National Cemeteries
Widow's Pension Files - Civil War Service

In honor,
Michigan Girl

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Monday, May 18, 2015

BATH SCHOOL BOMBING–88 Years ago today–45 killed, 58 injured–May 18, 1927

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This is the worst school killing in U.S. history.  Of the 45 people killed that day, 38 were children.  It surpasses Columbine, McDonalds, Virginia Tech and the Oklahoma bombing.  All are horrible tragedies.

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WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY?

School board member, Andrew Kehoe, stockpiled over 500 pounds of dynamite inside the school building.  He was disgruntled over property taxes and the upcoming foreclosure of his farm.  Kehoe was known to be an angry man.  The school exploded at 8:45 a.m.  Thirty minutes later Kehoe drove his own truck to the school and while conversing with the superintendent, detonated the bomb inside his truck killing himself, the superintendent and a young boy nearby. It was later learned that Kehoe had already killed his wife and firebombed his own home.

Of those children killed that day, 3 are related to me.  I cannot even imagine the horror of that day for the town of Bath, Michigan.  It is in honor of those family members and all the others killed or injured that day, that I write this post.

Children of Eugene Samuel HART and Irene Elizabeth CARR who died that day are: Iola, Percy and Vivian.
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Iola Irene Hart - age 12
HART_Percy Eugene_1916-1927_photo from FAG
Percy Eugene Hart - age 11
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Vivian Oletta Hart - age 8

An older brother of the three children killed, survived the bombing that day.  He went on to have over 30 surgeries as a result of his injuries.

Perry George Hart
HART_Perry George_photo taken from The Bath School Disaster book by Monty J Ellsworth
Perry George Hart - age 17
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Perry with his son, Percy (named in honor of his brother who died) - age 52
The children are buried at Rose Cemetery in Bath, Clinton, Michigan, with their parents later buried next to them.

HART_Iola_Vivian & Percy_headstone_all 3 children killed by a bomber at their school in Bath Clinton Michigan

FindAGrave memorials can be seen by visiting these links:

Iola Irene Hart
Percy Eugene Hart
Vivian Oletta Hart

Here are some links of articles and a video where you can read about this terrible incident.

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bauerle/disaster.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
 
http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/18/bath_school_bombing_remembering_the_deadliest_school_massacre_in_american.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh2D1LqcHv0

http://daggy.name/tbsd/tbsd-x.htm 

I had never heard about this bombing until I began to research this part of my Hart family. The three children who were killed are 3rd cousins once removed.

If you think you might be related, even remotely, to anyone mentioned in this blog, please contact me!
In memory,
Michigan Girl

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Friday, May 15, 2015

FAMILY RECIPE FRIDAY - Orange Coconut Custard

 
My grandmother, Florence BOWDEN MILNE left us a spiral bound notebook, which I refer to has her journal.  The entire notebook is written in her hand and was begun about the time of her marriage to my grandfather, Joseph, in 1906.  In it she left a treasure chest of family information and wonderful clues to life back in the early 1900's.
TODAY'S FEATURED RECIPE
Orange Coconut Custard
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Here is a transcription of the recipe.

3 eggs slightly beaten
1/3 cup sugar
1/2 teas. salt
3 cups milk
3/4 teas. vanilla
3/4 teas. grated orange rind
1/3 cup shredded coconut
1 cup 40% corn flakes cereal
1 teas nutmeg

Mix eggs, sugar & salt: add milk gradually & mix well.  Fold in remaining things.  Put into 1 1/2 qt. casserole, in pan of hot water & bake at 350° an hr. or until set.

Apple crunch
6 cups sliced pared apples
1 1/4 cups light br. sugar
1/4 teas. nutmeg
1 teas. grated lemon rind
4 cups corn flakes
1/4 cup butter or margarine melted

Apples in 9x9 inch pan cover with 1 cup br. sugar, nutmeg & lemon rind.  Crush corn flakes, mix with rest br. sugar & butter, sprinkle over apples bake 375° an hr or until apples tender.

I haven’t tried any of the recipes in my grandmother’s journal.  However, I was curious as to whether this recipe or something called Orange Coconut Custard was still around today.

Here are a couple of sites with recipes with similar names.

Taste of Home - Orange Coconut Custard Recipe
Soft Orange Custard Recipe
Orange-Coconut Custard

These current recipes seem to have far fewer ingredients.  I wonder if they taste similar?

Do you have a family recipe from an ancestor?  I’d love to hear about it in a comment or on your own blog.
 
PREVIOUS POSTS FROM THIS SERIES CAN BE FOUND HERE:
How to Make Complexion Cream
How to Make Shampoo
How to Make Chocolate Fudge
How to Keep Hair Curled Back in 1906
Eggs Baked in Gravy

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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Tuesday, May 12, 2015

TWENTY FIVE YEARS AGO TODAY–Meet Mr. & Mrs. Ron Hall


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MAY 12, 1990
Me and Ron holding our champagne glasses_enhanced

Our Wedding Invitation
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When we met – at work in 1988 (however, we had previously known one another in 10th grade at Crawford High School, San Diego, CA.)
Where we got married – at Ron’s cousin’s house in Leucadia, California
Color of the wedding – Royal blue
Maid of honor – Nancy – lifelong friend of the bride
Best man – Greg – longtime friend of the groom
Our honeymoon – a cruise to the Mexican Riviera
Our first home – in San Diego

This was a wonderful day.  One I dreamed of for a very long time.  I can’t think of a single thing that went wrong.  The ceremony was small, but perfect.  We had some of our very closest friends and family there to celebrate with us.  And, it’s a day I will never forget.  Going on that first cruise got us started on a passion for travel and cruising, which continues to this day.

There have been plenty of ups and downs, lows and highs, good times and bad, but we are still together and grateful for our life together.

Thank you for letting me share this special memory with you.

GOULD_Diane wedding photo with Ron HALL_12 May 1990_Leucadia San Diego CA

Here are a few more pictures from that day.
Norm walks me down the isle
My brother, Norm walked me to the alter since my Dad was too ill to travel from Michigan
The ceremony with our Mom's watching closely
Cutting our beautiful cake
Ron taking my garter off
The garter
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Three lifelong friends, Nicki, Nancy (maid of honor) and Roxanne

This blog will now return to it’s regularly scheduled posts about our ancestors.

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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Monday, May 11, 2015

MYSTERY MONDAY - WHO'S YOUR DADDY? Brick Walls Post #4 - Catherine Dorsey Thorp about 1842-1898

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CATHERINE DORSEY is my paternal 2nd great grandmother.  She is another of my brick wall mysteries.  Here is what I know about her.

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Above photo is Catherine with her daughter Annie & son, Horace Henry Thorp, Jr. The photo would be about 1870-1871 based on Annie’s age

BIO OF CATHERINE DORSEY
Catherine was born about 1842 in Dublin, Ireland. According to her death certificate she was married at age 17 yrs. to Horace Henry Thorp.  In the 1860 census she and Horace (listed as Maurice on the census) were living in Oswego, Oswego Co., New York, ages 24 and 21.  By the 1870 census the couple was living in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan with their children, Ellen, age 10 born in New York, Mary (my direct ancestor), age 8 born in New York, Catherine age 6 born in New York, Vincent age 4 born in Michigan and Henry, age 2 born in Michigan.  This tells me that the couple probably moved to Michigan about 1866 when Vincent was born.  She is again seen in the 1880 census with her family.  Then dies on 12 Jun 1898 in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.  She is buried, without a headstone, at Mt. Elliott Cemetery in Detroit.

HERE’S WHAT ELSE I HAVE FOUND FOR CATHERINE
A possible passenger record for her.  I understand that the ages of our ancestors may not always be correct on these lists (as with any other historical document).

(Click on any image to enlarge it)
DORSEY_Catherine Thorp_Posssible passenger records from 1854 DORSEY_Catherine_passenger list_16 Sep 1854_ship Orient
However, this is not the only passenger record that shows up when I conduct a search on Ancestry.com.
 
Here is a list of other passenger records.  These are indexes only, but certainly some possibilities.
  Dorsey passenger list of records

She is enumerated in the following census records:
  • 1860 in Oswego, Oswego Co., New York with her husband Horace Thorp on a page with other Irish immigrants.  His name is given as Maurice.  She is listed as being born in Ireland.
  • 1870 in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan with her husband Horace (listed as Horris) and her first 5 children; Ellen, Mary, Vincent, Catherine and Horace Jr., ages 2-10.  This census gives her birthplace as Michigan.  We cannot know who gave the information to the enumerator.
  • 1880 in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan with her husband Horace and 8 children, ages 1-18.  She is listed as being born in Ireland.

  • Catherine died on 12 Jun 1898 in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan. 
    • Address of death 75 Lafayette Pl. in Detroit.
    • Name on certificate – Katherine Thorp, white, female 
    • Age 56 yrs., born in Ireland.
    • Married at age 17. 
    • Parent of 10 children of whom 7 are living. 
    • Name of father – Jno Dorsey born in Ireland. 
    • Name of mother – Mary Dorsey born in Ireland.
    • Cause of death – Endocarditis
    • Burial at Mt. Elliott Cemetery, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
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I have been to Mt. Elliott Cemetery in Detroit and talked to the sexton.  Their records indicate no headstone for Catherine.  I walked the area of her burial and found no headstone.

In 1899 her husband, Horace Thorp is listed on page 1472 of the Detroit city directory as Thorp, Horace H., eng., h 305 13th.  Also living at 305 13th is their son, Vincent.

In 1900 we find Horace still living at 305 13th St., but with his son, George, age 24, single and a daughter, Agnes, age 26 and single.
The next record I have for Horace Thorp is his death on 22 Feb 1907 in Spokane, Washington.  It took me 5 years to locate his death certificate.
 
NOTE:  In my earlier days of researching I didn’t realize our ancestors moved so far and so often.  Since there were at least 6 of Horace and Catherine’s children still living in Detroit, Michigan, I would not have expected him to move way out to Washington state.  His brother, Monson Thorp, Jr. lived in Spokane and was more than likely the reason Horace moved to that state.  Horace’s residence at time of death was Ash St., the same street his brother lived on.

Here is a screenshot of what I have in Legacy for Catherine.  Note the 11 children and not 10.  There is some confusion over two birth records I have found for Willis and William, the two youngest boys.
 
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Here are photos or drawings of Catherine and Horace, courtesy of my cousin, Bonnie, in Michigan.

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I wonder if Catherine came over to America alone?

With all of those children, you would think she would have some kind of headstone.

I have not done any Irish research, but hope to in a few weeks while I’m at the Family History Library.
 
I welcome your input for how I might locate Catherine’s parents.

For links to my previous "Mystery Monday-Who's Your Daddy" posts please click on the tab at the top of my blog.

If you think you might be related, even remotely, to anyone mentioned in this blog, please contact me!

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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