Sunday, May 10, 2020

MOTHER’S DAY 2020 ~ My matrilineal line back to my 6th great grandmother

A fellow blogger, Heather Wilkinson Rojo, who writes Nutfield Genealogy posted a blog with her matrilineal line.  I thought it was a good idea.  Yet another way to get this information out there and hope to connect with others who may share this line.


My Mother – Patricia Anne MILNE
Born 1924 in Detroit, Michigan, died 2016 in La Mesa, California, married Harry Norman Gould in 1949

My grandmother – Florence Lee Nora BOWDEN
Born 31 Jan 1888 in Ashland, Boyd, Kentucky, died 2 Apr 1986 in Southfield, Oakland, Michigan - married Joseph A. Milne on 11 Apr 1906.  They had 4 children

My great grandmother – Florence HUNTER
Born 7 Aug 1869 in Newport, Campbell, Kentucky, died 27 May 1946 in Kansas City, Jackson, Missouri - first married Robert Edward Lee Bowden on 10 Mar 1887 - they had 2 daughters.  Next married George Keatley Bell on 16 Oct 1904

My 2nd great grandmother – Susan Caroline BOGGS
Born 4 Aug 1842 in Marion, Lawrence, Ohio, died 26 Mar 1913 in Miamiville, Clermont, Ohio - married first James Gillen Hunter on 29 Aug 1859 - they had 9 children, after his death she married William Lewis Cresse on 26 Oct 1897 in Logansport, Cass, Indiana, after his death she married Lewis A. Hankins on 14 Apr 1909 in Jefferson Co., Indiana

My 3rd great grandmother – Nancy Delilah LUNSFORD
Born 8 Nov 1819 in Virginia, died 10 Apr 1895 in Huntington, Cabell Co., West Virginia - married William Allen Boggs on 11 Apr 1839 in Lawrence Co., Ohio - they had 5 children

My 4th great grandmother – Mary “Polly” Sackville HUDSON
Born 10 Jun 1796 in Virginia, died 28 Jun 1871 in Lawrence Co., Ohio - married John Lunsford (no known date) and they had 16 children
Here is a blog post about those 16 childrenSibling Saturday - The 16 children of John and Mary Lunsford 

My 5th great grandmother – Elizabeth REDDING
Born about 1775 in Virginia, died after 1850 - married Richard H. Hudson on 6 Sep 1795 in August Co., Virginia - they had 10 children

My 6th great grandmother – Mary (maiden name not known…..yet)
I don't yet know much about this couple.  I believe she was born about 1760 and that she died after 1815.  She married James Redding and is named in his will along with their 5 daughters

If you have connections to any of these ladies or their many descendants, I would love to hear from you and exchange information.  Are there other photos out there?  Are you a cousin?

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

Copyright ©  2010-2020   Diane Gould Hall


Friday, May 8, 2020

FRIDAY FINDS ~ The obituary for my paternal 2nd great grandfather, Horace H. Thorp (1836-1907) - Is ALL the information correct?

Spokane Chronicle, column 5, page 3, 22 Feb 1907

Transcription of this obituary:
Horace H. Thorpe, aged 71, died this morning at his residence at 01415 Ash street.  He leaves a brother, Monson Thorpe, residing in this city and three sons, Leo, Damon and Jay Thorpe.  The arrangements for the funeral will be made later.

Horace Henry Thorp is an ancestor that I have been researching for many years.  Just when you think you won’t find another piece of information, something pops up.  You wonder why you haven’t found it before, but are happy to have it.

Here is how I descend from Horace H. Thorp and Catherine C. Dorsey (2nd great grandparents)
Mae Eve Thorp & William V. Gould (great grandparents)
Harry Whipple Gould & Marie Wallace Lindsay (grandparents)
Harry Norman Gould & Patricia Ann Milne (parents)
I was poking around on Ancestry today, you know, kind of not knowing what I wanted to do.  I looked at my hints and saw one for Horace.  It was an obituary on  I went right to my Legacy database, thinking I surely have this obituary.  WHAT?!  No, I don’t.

There it was in the Spokane Chronicle, dated the day of his death.  I knew he was living in Spokane, Washington at the time of his death because I have his death register and death certificate.  I also knew his address at that time was the same one listed in this obituary, 01415 Ash, Spokane, Washington, as stated on his death certificate and the death register.  His brother’s name is Monson Thorp(e) as stated in the obituary.  And, he was 71 years old when he died.

Those are all perfect matches to my Horace.

Where it goes wrong is with the listed names of his sons.  I immediately noticed names that I recognize…..but not as Horace’s sons.  The 3 sons listed in this obituary are Lee, Damon & Jay.  These are Horace’s nephews.  They are the 3 sons of his brother Monson Thorp, Jr. 

Horace’s sons are Vincent F. (1866-1910), Horace H., Jr. (1868-1900), Stephen (1875-?), George S. (1876-1933) and William (1879-1881).

TIP:  This is a perfect example of why we cannot take one piece of information and say that it is conclusive evidence.  How many of us have seen incorrect information on birth, marriage and death certificates, headstones, obituaries and other records?  ALWAYS try to find at least 3 pieces of evidence for any “fact” about your ancestor.

And, by way of example.  Here is an Event list for Horace Thorp, from my Legacy database.  As you can see, I already had LOTS of information about him.  The obituary is my 39th event for his life.
What mistakes have you located in your ancestor’s records?  I’d love to hear about them.

If you are related to anyone mentioned in this blog, please contact me.  I’d love to exchange information.


MYSTERY MONDAY - WHO'S YOUR DADDY? Brick Walls Post #4 - Catherine Dorsey Thorp about 1842-1898 (Horace’s wife)  I still cannot find information on her parents & family

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

Copyright ©  2010-2020   Diane Gould Hall


Monday, May 4, 2020

MYSTERY MONDAY ~ Do you know this woman? Taken at Fenner Studio, Lima, Ohio - I would date this photo circa 1890’s Ohio

Unknown lady - fron Fenner's Studio in Lima, Ohio (showing front and back of the photo postcard) - I estimate 1890's

I purchased this photo on eBay sometime in 2019.  I routinely look for any photographs that were taken at, or mention Fenner’s Studio.  My great grandaunt, Grace HUNTER (1874-1946) was married to Charles Henry FENNER (1859-1918) and his family owned Fenner’s Studio in Ohio.  After his death, my great grandaunt, Grace, ran the studio on some level.
When I saw this particular photo, I thought the lady bore a resemblance to my 2nd great grandmother, Susan Caroline BOGGS, who was Grace’s mother.  I have only one photo of Susan Boggs (who married James Gillen Hunter and together they had 9 children).  Wouldn’t it be marvelous to have another photo of her?

Here’s my only photo of Susan.  This is a four generation photo that I’ve shown on my blog in the past.

Susan Caroline Boggs Hunter is seated in front, holding her great granddaughter, Dorothy Irene Milne - standing in the back are L-R, my great grandmother Florence Hunter and my grandmother Florence Bowden - this photo was taken in 1907

If I zoom in and crop only Susan, here’s what I get. 

Here are the photos side by side. 

I am fairly good at identifying old photos and recognizing my family at different ages.  I’ve examined these photos over and over and I have concluded that they are not the same person.  In looking at the shape of the eyebrows and mouth and even the eyes, I find significant enough differences that make me think they are two different people.  I have tried to zoom in to the magazine the lady in the chair is holding, but cannot see a date or place etc.

I would welcome your input on this matter.  Do you think they are the same person?  If so, why?
And, of course, if you recognize this woman and are related to her, I’d be happy to send you the photo.


100 YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE SPANISH INFLUENZA ~ An estimated 50 Million died worldwide–How many in my own family? (Quite timely – I mentioned Charles Fenner’s death above – he died in this pandemic)

A GREAT DISCOVERY YESTERDAY–ASK FOR HELP AND YOU MAY GET IT – A post about the value of putting your queries online and joining Facebook groups

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl
Copyright ©  2010-2020   Diane Gould Hall

Thursday, April 30, 2020

ANCESTORS IN THE NEWS ~ Richard Lindsay to become Grand Patriarch of the Odd Fellows organization - 1914

Another in my series of news articles about my paternal great granduncle, Richard Lindsay (1862-1927).

Here are the other blog posts written about Richard Lindsay, so far.  My blogging has taken a hit during this Covid-19 situation.  It’s been difficult to focus and do any research or writing.  Instead, I’ve been cleaning and organizing various areas in my house. Have any of you found it difficult to conduct your research as well?  Or, have you been able to do more?

This particular news article is about a meeting of the Odd Fellows organization.  The meeting took place in Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan in May 1914.

I wondered what exactly was the Odd Fellows?  Are they similar to Masons?  I know that Richard Lindsay belonged to both organizations, as mentioned in other articles about him and his obituary.

I used our friend Goggle and found this Wikipedia explanation of the Odd Fellow organization.  The answer to my question about them being the same as the Masons would be, they are similar organizations.

Here is the full page of the article which includes photos.  Richard Lindsay being second from the left.

Here is a transcription of the portion of the article about Richard Lindsay.  He was slated to become the Grand Patriarch.

“Reward Detroit Man – There is but little doubt of the re-election of Richard Lindsay, of Detroit to the highest office in the state organization, that of grand patriarch, to succeed Thomas Conlin of Crystal Falls, the present incumbent.  The election of the grand high priest to grand patriarch follows in the natural order of advancement of officers, this being the system adopted by the Grand Encampment in the election of its officers.  Mr. Lindsay is the present grand high priest.  He is a member of Western Lodge of Detroit, one of the strongest in the state.  He is a past grand of that lodge and past chief patriarch of Enterprise Encampment of Detroit.”

Did you have ancestors who belonged to organizations such as these?  I have many in my family who were members of Masonic Lodges and one family involved in Canadian Order of Foresters and Companions of Foresters, among others.

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl
Copyright ©  2010-2020   Diane Gould Hall

Tuesday, April 14, 2020

TOMBSTONE TUESDAY ~ My maternal 2nd great grandparents–Joseph Gillespie (1837-1908) and Susan Burgess (1841-1933)

Far left is Susan Gillespie, next to her Joseph Gillespie - the larger stone is their daughter, Louise Forsyth & her husband James F. Forsyth - the lone stone on the right is Susan Gillespie's mother, Elizabeth Gaydon Burgess (1813-1884) 

My maternal 2nd great grandparents were both born in Devonshire, England.  Joseph in Tiverton and Susan in Barnstaple. 
They immigrated to the United States in 1862 with their 2 infants, Susan (my great grandmother) and little William.

Joseph died at age 71 on 26 May 1908 in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.  His death certificate states the cause of death as Dilation of the Heart.

Susan outlived him by 25 years.  She died of Myocarditis, on 8 Mar 1933 in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan at age 91.

They are buried at Elmwood Cemetery in Detroit.  I’ve been to this cemetery a couple of times during my visits from California.  There are 32 members of my family at rest in this cemetery.

Here are the photos of their headstones

They are in Section O, Lot 53, Graves 14 & 15. 
You may visit their memorials here Joseph #21177918 and Susan #21177747.

If you are connected to this couple I’d love to hear from you.  Joseph had 9 brothers and a sister so there must be many descendants out there.


Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl
Copyright ©  2010-2020   Diane Gould Hall

Saturday, April 11, 2020

SEPIA SATURDAY ~ Who are the people in these unknown photos? They were in my maternal grandmother’s photo collection

We all have pictures in our collections that we cannot identify.  I have found, over the years, that sometimes the identities are revealed as we gain more knowledge of the family and connect with more cousins.  Those new cousins may have knowledge that we don’t have.

I never throw away old photos for just that reason.

My maternal family on my grandfather’s side (Milne) are from Aberdeen, Scotland.  The fact that one of the photos is from an Aberdeen studio and another from a MILNE Aberdeen studio certainly leads me to believe these may be ancestor photos.  These photos were among those belonging to my grandmother, Florence Bowden who married Joseph A. Milne.  Joseph’s father Andrew Charles Milne was born in Aboyne, Aberdeen, Scotland in 1856 and immigrated to the U.S. through Canada in 1868.
Today I’d like to share some pictures that I haven’t been able to identify……yet.  Perhaps someone out there can shed some light on them?

Who is this lady?  The photo is from Milne studios in Aboyne, Aberdeen, Scotland - my Milne family is from Aberdeen and this photo was from the collection of a Milne descendant

Who is this man? - the photo is from an Aberdeen, Scotland studio - no markings on the back

Another photo found among my Milne group but I don't recognize this lady

There is some speculation that this is a photo of Edna Bowden (my grandmother's only sibling) - but I cannot say for sure

This young lady has some of the same facial features as other Milne or Bowden women in my family - but who is she?

I found this photo today while going through my grandmother's pictures - this lady looks very much like my grandmother, Florence Bowden Milne - but it is not her.  Could this be her sister Edna?

If anyone reading this can help identify these people, I’d love to hear from you.

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl
Copyright ©  2010-2020   Diane Gould Hall

Friday, April 3, 2020

FRIDAY FINDS ~ The burial record for my maternal 2nd great grandaunt, Mary Ann Gillespie Addicott–1829-1898, England

Mary Ann Gillespie was the only daughter of Thomas Gillespie & Susannah Barrowcliff.  She had 10 brothers.  She was the 8th child.  What must that have been like?  Such a very busy and full household. Her oldest brother would have been about 12 when she was born and the youngest just 2 years old.  After her birth in 1829 her parents had 3 more sons.

Mary Ann’s parents are my maternal 2nd great grandparents and I descend from her younger brother Joseph Gillespie.  You can read more about Joseph & his family here Census Sunday - My 2nd great grandparents - Joseph & Susan Gillespie - 1900 Detroit, Michigan

It’s not been particularly easy finding information on all of the children in this family.  I’ve been fortunate on some and come up empty on others.
My first inkling that I’d located Mary Ann as an adult came when I found her mother, Susannah, living with her and her husband in the 1871 census.
TIP: I cannot tell you how many times I’ve located my female ancestors because they had a parent living with them.  Keep an eye out for all members in the household and be aware that family members may well be listed as “boarders.”

Today, though I want to talk about the burial record I located for Mary Ann.  I found the record on Somerset, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1914.

The record doesn’t give me a lot of information, but I do know that Mary Ann and her husband, William were living in Somerset when they were enumerated in 1871, 1881 and 1891. William was a Day Laborer.

Here’s what the record tells me:
  • Page 70 – Burials in the Parish of Huish Champflower in the County of Somerset in the Year 1896-7-8-9.
  • No. 559
  • Name – Mary Ann Addicott
  • Abode – Wiveliscombe Without
  • When Buried – September 1st
  • Age – 67
  • By whom the ceremony was performed – Walter C. Haines (officiating minister)
Naturally, when I found this record I was obliged to find out a little more about Huish Champflower.  My search found the following information on Wikipedia
The name comes from the hiwisc, the Saxon for homestead, and it was recorded in the Domesday book as Hiwis,[2] with the suffix marking its ownership by the family of Thomas de Champflower, who was Lord of the Manor by 1166.[3]
Just outside the village, on the road to the Brendon Hills and Clatworthy Reservoir, is Huish Champflower round barrow.[4]
The parish of Huish Champflower was part of the Williton and Freemanners Hundred.[5]
A house called Washbottle, which stands on the River Tone as it flows through the village, represents the watermill which ground the corn for the village from 1086 until World War I.[3]

I used Google Earth to find the exact location of Huish.
Here’s a map showing an aerial view.  This certainly looks like a quaint little village and a place I’d like to visit.

Here is a map showing the placement of Huish in the United Kingdom.

This burial record does not list the name of the cemetery.  I have searched online at all the usual sites, FindAGrave, Billion Graves and Deceased Online for any further information on Mary Ann’s burial.
I do suspect that if I could locate Mary Ann’s burial, I might well locate other Addicott or Gillespie family members.  I’ll keep looking from time to time and hope eventually I can locate the burial site.

NOTE:  One thing I did do when looking at the aerial view of Huish, was to find the local church, St. Peter’s.  I thought I saw a cemetery on the church grounds.  I then went to Google and searched for the church and sure enough, there is a cemetery there.  Could this be where Mary Ann is buried?  Here’s a link to the pictures I found St. Peter's Church  And, I did then locate the church cemetery on FindAGrave, but with only 3 memorials added.  Wouldn’t this be a great project?    Walk the cemetery and document all those headstones.

If you are related to any of the families mentioned in this blog post, I’d love to hear from you.

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl
Copyright ©  2010-2020   Diane Gould Hall