Saturday, June 8, 2019

FINALLY! Proving the father of my 3rd great grandmother, Olive Doten Hart (1805-1887–WHAT DID I FIND?

Olive DOTEN is my paternal 3rd great grandmother.  She was born in May 1805 in Vermont.  My search for Olive’s parents began early in my research, I’d say about 2005. What were her parent’s names?  Since she is married in the 1850 census, and the census records prior to that only have head of household (usually the men), I needed to find out some other way.

In 2000, I began keeping a spreadsheet to keep track of records I had ordered by mail or online.  This was back when we didn’t have so many records available online.  Because of my spreadsheet entry I know that I sent for Olive and her husband, Henry’s death certificates on 4 Apr 2005, from Macomb County, Michigan, I received them on 22 Apr 2005 and I paid $10 each for them.

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Yes, I received them, but they were transcribed copies and NOT the original records.  Helpful, but not always accurate, as most of us know.

Here’s her death certificate as received.  We are concentrating on parent’s names so let’s see what the certificate says.  Isaac & Sally DOLERI. 

 
That precipitated a long search for the surname DOLERI in Vermont, where Olive was born and in surrounding states.  I looked in every record you can think of and found nothing for Isaac or Sally Doleri.  In fact, back when I was looking, there were very few records for that surname.

I called the Macomb County Clerk’s office and asked if they would please send me a copy of the original record.  I, of course, offered to pay for it.  They said they could not release it, and the transcribed copy would have to suffice.  Darn!

Back in 2011 based on evidence from information about the DOTEN family in Monkton, Vermont and the name of her oldest son being Isaac Doten Hart, I changed the focus of my search to the surname DOTEN

In the meantime, Michigan, Death Records, 1867-1950 came online and later images were added.  OH BOY!!!  DO YOU SEE WHAT I SEE?  Her parents listed as Isaac & Sally DOTEN.

Michigan, Death Records, 1867-1950
Name:    Olive G Hart
[Olive G Doten]
Gender:    Female
Marital Status:    Widowed
Birth Date:    1806
Birth Place:    Vermont
Death Date:    10 Apr 1887
Death Place:    Armada, Macomb, Michigan, USA
Death Age:    81
File Number:    14
Father:    Isaac Doten
Mother:    Sally Doten


And when the image was added online I was finally able to make my own decision as to what was written.  Look closely at the parent’s name in the right column.  Does that say Doleri or Doten?  A transcriber should always look closely at how all the entries were written.  You can see that this person carried the cross mark on his T’s a little to the side on some of the entries.  He does that in several names like the name Walter, Hebblewhite and Milton.  ALWAYS remember to look at other entries on any record you receive. 



IS THIS PROOF THAT ISAAC & SALLY WERE HER PARENTS?  NO, it’s evidence, but not proof.  My search continued.

Fast forward to 2019.  Last weekend while attending SCGS Jamboree, I had some spare time. You can read about my experience here SCGS JAMBOREE 2019 ~ It was a fun time with friends and lots of learning.

I decided to look on Ancestry for Vermont probate records and look for Isaac DOTEN.  I’d done plenty of background research and had plenty of “possible” Isaac Dotens in my Legacy database.   Had I searched for probate records before?  Yes, but it’s been a few years.
 
I went directly to Vermont, Wills and Probate Records, 1749-1999 and entered Isaac Doten with a death date of 1855 plus or minus 5 yrs.  This was based on my research of the Doten family in Vermont.  No records found.  I tried all sorts of combinations of names.  First name only, last name only, no death year.  You get the idea.  NOTHING!

Now I went into the “general” search “all collections” and tried again. Look at what I entered in the search box d?tin.  We have to try everything.

FINALLY, after many tries I’ve come up with some possibles, in the right place, Vermont, with a matching first name of Isaac.

 
I clicked on the link for Vermont, Wills and Probate Records, 1749-1999 (yes, I had just searched that very database and come up empty). Never give up.  This is what I saw.  LOOK!  This Isaac is in Addison, Vermont, which is the exact county where I’ve located so many Isaac Doten’s.


I began going through the pages of this 26 page will packet and OH MY GOSH!!!!  ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

On page 5 of the record is the list of Isaac Doten’s daughters AND THESE MUST ALL BE THEIR MARRIED NAMES!!!  I had no idea if Olive had siblings or who they might be.  I immediately recognized the name Hannah Burrell.  I’d found a Hannah Burrell, age 69 living with Henry & Olive Hart & their children in the 1860 census in Michigan.  I’d never been able to figure out her connection to the family (if there was one)……..until now.

Here they are, Olive and her sisters:
HANNAH BURRELL, LYDIA CREED, OLIVE HART & BETSY SUMNER

Here's a close up of that section in this probate record that nearly made me jump up and down at the conference last weekend.

 
Are you doing the happy dance with me?  I was pretty excited. I have now OFFICIALLY proven that my Olive Hart was the daughter of Isaac Doten. This record along with other evidence is my proof.  Additionally, I’ve taken my family back another generation AND I have Olive’s sisters to research.  What will I find?  By the way, there was a brother, also named Isaac.  He was the oldest and was the administrator of the will for his father.

How I am connected to Isaac Doten, Sr.
Isaac Doten, Sr. & Sally Follett – my 4th great grandparents
Olive G. Doten & Henry Hart – my 3rd great grandparents
Sarah M. Hart & John C. Gould – my 2nd great grandparents
William V. Gould & Mae E. Thorp – my great grandparents
Harry W. Gould & Marie W. Lindsay – my grandparents
Harry N. Gould & Patricia A. Milne – my parents

Stay tuned for more posts about my Doten line.

If you are related to the Doten family or anyone else named in this post, please contact me.  I need to find more cousins from these lines.  I am on Gedmatch A918842.  If you match, let me know.

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl
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Thursday, June 6, 2019

SCGS JAMBOREE 2019 ~ It was a fun time with friends and lots of learning


This is the third year that I’ve been fortunate to attend Jamboree in Burbank.  This conference is hosted by the Southern California Genealogical Society, of which I am a member.

I first went in 2016 with my friend Debby Warner Anderson.  She and I attended again in 2018.  This year, along with Debby, I invited my long time friend, Pam Mohrman Paxton to join us. She flew in from Colorado.  Now there were three of us to exchange ideas, laugh and learn.

 Each time I attend a conference I learn.  Whether I get one new piece of information from a class or a dozen new things, it’s always worth it.  This conference is well run (all by volunteers) and well attended.  They also invite many nationally known speakers.  Such as Cyndi Ingle of Cyndi's List and Thomas MacEntee of Abundant Genealogy shown below.


I cannot say enough positive things about attending these conferences.  Whether you can attend every day or only one of the days, you will always come away with new info.  Being there for the entire time allows you to network with other genealogists, meet new people, reconnect with those you haven’t seen in a while and in my case, meet a new cousin. 


Some of the classes I attended were:

WHAT ARE THE ODDS (WATO) WORKSHOP – presenter was Leah Larkin, PhD

FOLD3 – DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE MISSING – presenter Anne Mitchell

GENEALOGY PIT STOP – RESEARCH IN 15 MINUTE INCREMENTS – presenter Thomas MacEntee

MINING THE CANADIAN CENSUS – presenter Dave Obee LLD

THE CASE OF THE BROKEN LINK, DECODING THE URL – presenter Cindi Ingle

ONLINE LIBRARY CATALOGS, A GENEALOGIST’S BEST KEPT SECRET – presenter D. Joshua Taylor, MA, MLS

BORDER-WHAT BORDER? OUR ANCESTORS WHO CALLED BOTH CANADA AND THE USA HOME – presenter Annette Lyttle, LLC

It would take me several pages to write about what I learned in these classes.  Suffice to say, I came away with new information and more knowledge than when I got there.  I’m a better researcher because of the many classes, seminars and conferences I’ve attended over the last 16 years.

Here’s some blog posts I’ve written where I’ve shared my experiences and in some gone into more detail about what I learned.

The i4GG Conference in San Diego is over for this year ~ here’s a quick take away–What a GREAT 2 days!!

ROOTSTECH PREPARATION ~ MY FIRST TIME ATTENDING
ROOTSTECH IS OVER BUT ~ We had fun……..meeting other bloggers, wandering the Expo Hall, enjoying the classes and researching at the Family History Library

TAX & ESTATE RECORDS ~ What I learned at a seminar featuring Michael Lacopo

OTHER POSTS THAY YOU MAY FIND OF INTEREST

SEMINARS, WEBINARS, SOCIETIES–WILL THEY HELP YOUR RESEARCH?

Happy hunting and I hope to see you at the next conference or seminar,
Michigan Girl
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Sunday, May 19, 2019

52 ANCESTORS IN 52 WEEKS- Week 13 ~ A fire at the Witchell shoe factory 16 Oct 1900 in Detroit–Horace Thorp, my 2nd great grandfather mentioned in an article

Honoring those who were killed and injured in this fire
Alonzo D. Ireson, age 63 – died
Ernest Lizzote, age 28 – died
Charles O’Connor, age 63 – injured
Joseph Pullare, age 21 – injured
Jennie McTaggart, age 16 – injured
Augustino Sufurto, age 28 – injured
Charles H. Dessottell, age 55 – injured
Daniel Cardinal, age 45 – injured
Mabel Straight, age 14 – injured
Minnie Corbett, age 22 – injured

Sometimes when we run our ancestor’s names on the newspaper websites we find surprises.  Whether it’s general articles about visiting family, a car being stolen or a court case, I’m always intrigued.

In this case I was trying to find out more about my 2nd great grandfather, Horace Henry Thorp (1836 in New York to 1907 in Washington), married to Catherine C. DORSEY and together they had 10 children.

I found this article mentioning him.  It said he worked next door to the Witchell shoe factory which caught on fire and injured several people and killed two.  I know from Detroit City Directory listings that Horace, indeed, did work at the laundry next door to the shoe factory.

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Detroit Free Press, 19 Oct 1900, pg 2

I went on to find a couple of more articles referring to the fire.  It’s very sad to think of those who lost their lives and those who were injured.
 
Detroit Free Press, 17 Oct 1900, pg 1 and 24 Oct 1900, pg 4

From the article published 24 Oct 1900, page 4, in the Detroit Free Press, we can read that there was an “open verdict” as to the cause of the fire.  What they had at that time was a probability and some evidence on how it may have begun. 
Was there further investigation?  If so, what was the conclusion or verdict? 
I located this article about one of the fire victims, Jennie McTaggert, who died of shock from another incident just 2 years after the fire.  Here is the article about her death.
Death of Jennie McTaggert - Detroit Free Press 2 Dec 1901, pg 5

It seems to me the families would have wanted to know more about how the fire started which injured and killed family members.  I have not located any other articles.  

If you know anything more about this incident, I’d love to hear from you.  If you are connected with anyone mentioned in this article, please contact me.

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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Wednesday, May 15, 2019

WEDDING WEDNESDAY ~ Charles J. Thorp & Clara Peterson–3 Jun 1899 in Spokane, Washington

Honoring the marriage of Charles J. Thorp & Clara C. Peterson

Charles J. Thorp is my 1st cousin 3 times removed.  He’s the son of Monson Thorp, Jr. (my 2nd great granduncle) and Eudora Louise Searls. He married Clara C. Peterson on 3 Jun 1899 in Spokane, Spokane Co., Washington.


Charles worked as a Merchant at a woodyard, a Foreman at a dairy farm and as a Laundryman at a laundry, according to the 1910, 1920 and 1930 census records.

He and Clara had the following children: Monson, born 1900, Perry E., born 1903, Glenn H., born about 1915, Verris, born 1917 and Wayne M. born about 1922.

I have not yet located a death record for Charles Thorp.  However, he is enumerated in the 1930 census and by 1940, Clara is living with two of her sons, Monson and Wayne, and listed as a widow.

If you are connected to anyone mentioned in this post, please contact me.  I’d love to learn more about this family and exchange information with you.

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl
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Wednesday, May 8, 2019

WEDDING WEDNESDAY ~ William Ritchie & Agnes Craigmile–my maternal 2nd great granduncle and aunt–17 Mar 1839, Midmar, Aberdeen, Scotland

Celebrating the marriage of William Ritchie & Agnes Craigmile in 1839

William Ritchie, my 2nd great granduncle descends from my 3rd great grandparents, Archibald Ritchie & Margaret Ewen of Aberdeenshire, Scotland.

He was about 21 years old when he and Agnes married. Agnes was about 27 years old.  They were married on 17 Mar 1839 in Midmar, Aberdeen, Scotland1 a month after the birth of their daughter, Margaret.  I wondered if perhaps, Agnes had been married prior to William? Two reasons to ask this question are: She would have been about 27 at the time of marriage which is “older” at that time in history.  And, their daughter was born, according to birth records, a month prior to the banns being filed.  I have searched for another marriage for Agnes and not found one.

William worked as a shoemaker in the census records for 1841, 1851 and 1871 and as listed on his death record on 21 Aug 18792.  Agnes had died just a year earlier on 18 Jul 1878.

This couple had 7 known children – Margaret born 17 Feb 1839, Alexander born 17 Sep 1840, William (1842-1868), David (1844-1928) who married Louise Henrietta Frey, Agnes born 13 Jun 1848, Andrew born 6 Jul 1850 and Mary Anne born about 1854.  All the children were born in Aboyne, Aberdeenshire, Scotland.

Both William & Agnes are buried in Glentanar Kirkyard, Aboyne, Aberdeen, Scotland.  You may visit their memorials here #135839094 and #1358391683

Sources: 1Scotland’s People ©Crown copyright and copyright brightsolid ltd: Genealogy, family history and family tree information.  A partnership between the National Records of Scotland and the Court of the Lord Lyon enabled by brightsolid. 2 – Scotland’s People; 3https://www.FindAGrave.com.

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl
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Monday, April 15, 2019


Hello readers - well, it's springtime and that means cruise time.

Be on the lookout for new posts coming the week of May 6th.

Until then, thanks for following my blog.

Michigan Girl


Tuesday, April 9, 2019

TOMBSTONE TUESDAY ~ Hazen P. Ward and Elizabeth “Lizzie” Lindsay–Woodmere Cemetery, Detroit, Michigan


Elizabeth “Lizzie” Lindsay is my 1st cousin twice removed.  This makes her the granddaughter of my 2nd great grandparents, William Lindsay and Mary Wallace.

I learned more about Lizzie when I connected with my 3rd cousin, Marian.  She is a descendant of Lizzie’s parents Robert Lindsay, Sr. and Catherine “Kittie” Erb.

Elizabeth “Lizzie” Lindsay was born 22 Jun 1893 in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan. She was a twin.  Her twin brother was Robert Lindsay (1893-1977).

Lizzie was married four times.  First to Robert Bruce on 16 Oct 1912, divorced in 1922; 2nd to Thomas A. Bollman on 30 Jul 1923, divorced in 1933; 3rd to Frederick Ollson 26 Sep 1935 who died 21 May 1950 and last to Hazen P. Ward.  I haven’t located the marriage record for Lizzie & Hazen as of this date.

I plan to write a follow up post about Lizzie’s marriages and life.
 
She is buried at Woodmere Cemetery in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.  Her fourth husband, Hazen P. Ward is buried alongside her.  They are in the South Lake Section, Lot 429, Spaces 7 & 8.  You may visit their memorials here – Hazen #194746445 and Elizabeth “Lizzie” #194746577.

If you are connected to any of the people mentioned in this post, I’d love to hear from you.

Happy hunting,




Michigan Girl
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