Aboyne Kirkyard in Scotland

Aboyne Kirkyard in Scotland
ABOYNE KIRKYARD, ABOYNE, ABERDEENSHIRE, SCOTLAND

Saturday, July 19, 2014

FOLLOW UP TO PHOTO DUPLICATION REQUESTS FROM FAMILY SEARCH


Hi everyone.  On 7/13/14 I wrote about submitting photo duplication requests to familysearch.org.  You can read that post here PHOTO DUPLICATION REQUESTS ON FAMILY SEARCH PLUS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LEGACY & EVERNOTE

On July 12th, I submitted five requests to Family Search for death certificates.  All five deaths occurred in the state of Michigan.

GILLESPIE, Mary Eva - 1949 - Eloise, Wayne, Michigan
GILLESPIE, Susan - 1933 - Detroit, Michigan
PICKARD, Ellen  - 1927 - Detroit, Michigan
THORNTON, Mary - 1929 - Muskegon, Michigan
THORPE, Catherine  - 1941 - Detroit, Michigan
 
Based on the timeline given on the familysearch website, I didn’t expect to receive these records, if I did receive them at all, until 4-6 weeks after my request was submitted.
 
SURPRISE!
 
On July 16, just four (4) days after my requests, I received four of the death certificates. Oh my gosh!  Was I every surprised to get that email.  Of course I was away from home and saw the email on my phone.  I didn’t get home for several hours, but couldn’t wait to download and view those certificates.
 
The only certificate I didn’t receive was the 1927 death of Ellen Pickard.  As of this date, I have still not received that one.  I sure hope I do because she is my grand aunt and my grandmother talked about her all the time.
 
But, the four others have been enough to keep me quite busy and have led to the discovery of a set of 4th great grandparents and other data.  
 
And to answer the question about whether I would receive the two certificates for the deaths that occurred after 1938.  The answer is YES.
 
Here are the certificates I received.
 
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GILLESPIE_Susan nee BURGESS_death cert_8 Mar 1933_Detroit Wayne Michigan
GILLESPIE_Mary Eva nee KNOWLES_death cert_17 Mar 1949_Eloise Wayne Michigan
THORPE_Catherine nee THORP_death cert 3 Dec 1941_DetroitWayneMichigan
THORNTON_Mary nee MILNE_death cert_22 Aug 1929_Muskegon Mukegon Co Michigan

Unfortunately, I have only had the time to actually “work” on the certificate for my 2nd Great Grandmother, Susan Gillespie.  It’s just been one of those busy weeks.  I’m sure you can all relate.  

However, that one certificate has led me to the following information, some of it I already had, some of it was new.
  • Her name
  • Her date of birth
  • Her husband’s name
  • Her place of birth (I believe it should say Tiverton, England and not Twerton)
  • Her father’s name
  • Her mother’s maiden name (NEW INFORMATION)
  • Her cause of death (NEW INFORMATION)
  • Her place of death (NEW INFORMATION)
  • The informant on her death certificate (NEW INFORMATION)
  • Her place of burial
  • The funeral home that handled the arrangements for the family (NEW INFORMATION)
  • Her residence at the time of her death (NEW INFORMATION)
  • How long she had been in the U.S. (NEW INFORMATION)
  • Her length of residence in Detroit, Michigan (NEW INFORMATION)
I’d say that is quite a list, wouldn’t you?  Including 8 pieces of NEW INFORMATION.
I definitely did my genealogy happy dance girl with purple top jumping for joy
Thanks to finding that maiden name for Susan Gillespie’s mother, Elizabeth Gaden, I have used the website FindMyPast to locate more information about the Gaden/Gaydon/Gayden family from Devonshire, England.  

NOTE:  On my very first genealogy trip back in 2007, I went to Detroit, Michigan.  My birthplace and the birthplace for many of my family members.  On that trip I was able to go to several cemeteries in Detroit and photograph headstones.  It was an absolutely wonderful trip.  One of the headstones I photographed was for Elizabeth Gaden who’s married name was Burgess.  I have wanted to learn more about her ever since that time.

Diane at Elizabeth Burgess' headstone
Here I am in 2007 at the headstone for my 3rd great grandmother Elizabeth Gaden Burgess
Burgess_Elizabeth_back of headstone
Here is the back of her headstone naming her husband, her date of death and her age
  

I can’t wait to explore the other three certificates I received and see what they will reveal.

TIP:  Even though I have looked over the information on this certificate and gleaned every possible piece of data that I could.  I will still go back another time or two as I am citing this source and making those entries in Legacy.  We often miss things when we first see a document and another look or three or four, never hurts.

This has been a very good experience and I am counting the days until I can submit 5 more requests to Family Search.  Until then, I have plenty to do.

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl

Copyright ©  2014   Diane Gould Hall
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.  NO USE WITHOUT PERMISSION















Sunday, July 13, 2014

PHOTO DUPLICATION REQUESTS ON FAMILY SEARCH – PLUS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LEGACY AND EVERNOTE


You know what they say “you learn or should learn something new every day.”  Well, count this day a success as I’ve learned about a really wonderful source for getting copies of records that you cannot get online.

I belong to several Facebook groups for genealogy.  I’ve written about the incredible advantages to belonging to these groups/pages on Facebook and this is another great example.  Here is a link to my post - Facebook - How it can be very useful in your research

Not too long ago Deidre Erin Denton, mentioned, on the Detroit Genealogy Facebook page, that she had just received 5 records she had requested via Family Search.  I thought to myself “I didn’t know you could do that.”  Apparently, you can request up to 5 records per month.  And the best thing – it’s FREE! Thanks for the info Deidre.

Today, on the same Detroit Genealogy page I was bemoaning the fact that we don’t have images for the Michigan Death Certificates 1921-1952.  I’m thankful to have the indexed transcriptions, don’t get me wrong.  But, you know how it is.  You want to see the actual document.  

Another nice member of the group (thank you Nancy) reminded me that you can request photo duplications of the certificates or any other record not available online or in a book. 
I decided today was the day and I have completed submission of requests for 5 death certificates I’ve been wanting.  I’ll walk you through the process, which is very easy.  This process can be used for records from anywhere, any state etc.  Here is a link to the page on Family Search that explains the criteria - Photoduplication Services on familysearch.org  

You can read for yourself to see if the record you may be wanting will qualify.

I knew that the records I wanted were from the Michigan Death Certificates, 1921-1952.  I also knew that those images were not yet online and, to my knowledge, not in any book.
Let’s walk through the process.

NOTE:  I have received several comments via Facebook and this blog, regarding the death certificates for Michigan.  Some people say that the 75 year rule for privacy will only allow them to release images of deaths prior to 1939.  Others say they have received later years.  Please be aware of this when you are ordering Michigan Death Certificates and probably any other vital records from other states.  
Also, be aware that the Seeking Michigan site is scheduled to release the images for the Michigan Death Certificates 1921-1952, some time this year.  Will they release images for all of them or only up to 1938?  I don't know the answer to that at this time.

Once you are on the Photoduplication Services page click on the green icon that says Photoduplicaiton Request Form.

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Photo dup service

What you will see next is the actual form for you to fill out.  You don’t even have to print it, you can just fill it out right online and submit it from there.  I always appreciate that.

Photo Duplication Form — FamilySearch

When you find a record on Family Search you see the indexed transcription.  Sometimes there is a little camera indicating there is also an image for that record.  In the case of the Michigan Death Certificates, 1921-1952, there is no little camera.  However, I had already copied the indexed information from the records I was looking for, into my Legacy database.  

It’s in that indexed information that you will find the Microfilm number and other information you need in order to complete this form.  

Here is what I have from the index for my grand aunt, Ellen Pickard.  I have indicated in RED the items that I need from this text to fill out the request form.

Michigan, Death Certificates, 1921-1952

Name: Ellen Pickard
Event Type:Death
Event Date: 31 Mar 1927
Event Place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 39
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 01 Apr 1887
Birthplace: Detroit, Michigan
Birth Year (Estimated): 1888
Father's Name: Wm Lindsay
Mother's Name:    
GS Film number: 001972982

Digital Folder Number: 005362579
Image Number:
02341


Here is a copy of the completed form, highlighting certain areas.  I’ve left my personal information out, but, please remember to fill it in when you submit your form.

Photo Duplication Form — FamilySearch_filled out

TIP: I didn’t see an item number or call number in the indexed text, so I submitted the Digital Folder No. instead.  In the space where they ask for Title of record or book and name of parents.  I learned, after my first couple of submissions, that you can put more in that box than just what fits in the space.  I wanted you to see what I submitted so I made a box below the entry area for demonstration purposes.  I didn’t have a page or item number so in that box, I submitted the image number. 

Now, just click on submit request and you’re done. 
  
They say it can take 4-6 weeks.  I’ll be waiting………………

HOW DID I KEEP TRACK OF THE RECORDS I REQUESTED?

In my Legacy 8 database for each individual I made a note of the date & what I had done.  To learn more about Legacy 8, please click on the Legacy icon on the top right of this blog page.

Here is a screenshot of Ellen Lindsay’s Individual Information.

Linday Ellen Ind Info_annotated

I will click on the plus sign (+) for death notes.  You can see that I copied and pasted the index information from Family Search for the Michigan Death Certificates, 1921-1952 for Ellen Pickard.  And, you can see my note about submitting the photo duplication request.

Lindsay_Ellen_death notes

NOW I WILL MAKE A NOTE IN EVERNOTE FOR ALL THE REQUESTS I SUBMITTED.

This will allow me to keep track of every request I submit and I can even set a reminder in Evernote to tell me when I might start expecting to see the records in my email.  I can also find this note easily (in case I forget where I’ve filed it) because Evernote has such incredible search capabilities. For more information about the use of Evernote for your genealogy research please see my post Evernote - A Very Useful and Free Tool to Help You Organize Your Genealogy and Everything Else

evernote for fs requests

Now the waiting begins.  I will let you know when I receive the records.  Will they send me all 5 of them?  Did I give them all the correct information?  Time will tell.

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl


Copyright ©  2014   Diane Gould Hall
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.  NO USE WITHOUT PERMISSION

Tuesday, July 8, 2014

BIRTH RECORDS WITH INCORRECT NAMES–WHAT WOULD YOU THINK?


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As genealogists we all know that not every record we find will match “exactly” what we have or know about a particular person.  

We gather as much evidence as we can and compile a record of someone’s life. 
I’ve been searching for about 8-9 years now for the birth record of my paternal grandmother, Marie Lindsay, born 1888 and her sister, Ellen Lindsay, born 1887, both in Detroit, Michigan.  

I’ve found their two siblings, Bessie Lindsay, born 1892 and William Lindsay, born 1894 in Detroit, Michigan.

Since family search has the Michigan Births, 1867-1902, you would think the births would be there.  That’s where I located the birth records for their siblings, Bessie & William.

How many ways can you conduct a search?
  • All information filled in
  • Last name only
  • Last name with first initial
  • Last name with full first name
  • Last name with parents first names
  • Last name with only one parent’s first name
  • Last name with year of birth or range of years and state or country of birth
  • First name only with parent’s first names
  • First name only with year of birth and parent’s names
Well, you get the idea.  There are so many ways for us to search.  I had tried all of those listed and several more.

So, what was it today that allowed me to find, what I believe, are the records for my grandmother, Marie and her sister Ellen?

NOTE:  My grandmother, Marie, lived with us when I was in my late teens.  We had always lived close to her, so I spent a lot of time talking to her.  I know that she always told me she was given the name Mary at birth and later changed it to Marie because that wasn’t as common as the name Mary.

Today I decided to conduct a search on familysearch.org and really try to find this birth record.

I used just the first name “Mary” and the year 1888, plus Michigan as the place of birth.

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FS Mary

I certainly thought I was going to get so many hits that I’d never find anything.  But here is what came up in the search, right on the first page:

FS Mary-2

This was exciting as that is her EXACT date of birth and her parent’s names are William & Bessie.  

But wait!!!  That last name is OLENDOSEY, not LINDSAY.  Yes, I know.

I looked at all 316 hits on this search.  The ONLY other Mary born on 8 October 1888 had parents named William & Alice who were born in Canada & Michigan.  So we know that’s not my grandmother, Marie.  

Let’s click on the image of the birth record and look at the actual entry in the birth record.

Page 1                                                                        Page 2
FS Mary_page 1        FS Mary_page 2

Page 1 – Birthdate of Oct. 8, 1888, female.  I see the name Mary and then I see Olendosey, which is exactly how the indexer transcribed it.  I compare another capital “L” on this page in an entry for Lillie Ficher and then for Hazel Lamb.  Certainly not the same.  Now let’s look at the next page of the record.

Page 2 –  Parent’s names are William Olendosey and Bessie Olendosey, both living in Detroit and both born in Scotland.  He is a Laborer.  The first names of the parents are correct and the birthplace and residence are a match.  My great grandfather did work as a Laborer and later as a Machinist.

CONCLUSION:  I have a social security application (SS-5) that gives my grandmother’s birthdate as Oct. 8, 1888 (signed by her), as well as her death certificate, California Death Index and the Social Security Death Index.  Plus, I know that’s the day we celebrated her birthday.  My great grandparents immigrated from Scotland to the United States between 1882 and 1886.  They married in Detroit, Michigan on 21 May 1886.  Having recently (just this past May) traveled to Scotland, I do know that the Scottish brogue of some people we spoke to was so thick that, even though they were speaking English, we were unable to understand what they were saying.  Is this what happened with this record?  Did they give their names when they filed the report and the person taking down the names, just misinterpreted them?  I honestly don’t know.  

However, other than the last name this record is a perfect match.  And coincidentally the last name on the record ends with “sey” which is another common ending to Lindsay.  I believe this is my grandmother’s birth record.  

Tell me what you would think?

A quick look at her sister, Ellen Lindsay’s birth record.

Page 1                                                                           Page 2
FS_Ellen_page 1     FS Mary_page 2

For this record I don’t have as many pieces of evidence as for my grandmother.  Her sister, Ellen Lindsay Pickard, died in 1927.  I don’t have the death certificate.  There is no Social Security Death Index record for her and no SS-5.  I do have a record from Michigan, but not image.  On this birth record, her father & mother’s names are correct as is their place of birth.  And, it lists his occupation as Laborer, which matches the birth record for her sister, Mary/Marie the following year.  I also know that Nellie and Ellen are names commonly used for each other, like Bessie and Elizabeth.

Michigan, Death Certificates, 1921-1952Name: Ellen PickardEvent Type:Death
Event Date: 31 Mar 1927
Event Place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 39
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 01 Apr 1887
Birthplace: Detroit, Michigan

Birth Year (Estimated): 1888
Father's Name: Wm Lindsay

Mother's Name:    
GS Film number: 001972982
Digital Folder Number: 005362579
Image Number: 02341


I’m still going to be looking for other evidence of the birth of Mary/Marie & Ellen.  But, given the years of their birth, there probably won’t be other birth records available.  Maybe a baptismal record?  In the meantime, I will put these records with the other records I have that provide evidence of their birth.  This is just another piece of the puzzle.

What do you think?  What conclusion would you come to?  Have you found records like this?

OTHER POSTS THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST

AMANUENSIS MONDAY - BIRTH RECORDS - WHAT INFORMATION DO THEY REVEAL? 

VITAL RECORDS - HOW TO REQUEST THEM & KEEP TRACK OF THOSE REQUESTS 

SURPRISE! A BIRTH RECORD WHERE IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE 



Happy hunting,
 
Michigan Girl


Copyright ©  2014   Diane Gould Hall
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.  NO USE WITHOUT PERMISSION

Thursday, July 3, 2014

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY AMERICA


Betsy Ross & the flag with a group in a sitting room

It’s that time of year again when we celebrate America, our independence from Great Britain and the rule of King George III. 

This site has a great timeline of the Revolutionary War http://www.revolutionary-war.net/revolutionary-war-timeline.html

I am a very proud member of the Daughters of the American Revolution.  My patriot ancestor is Anthony Bowen of Virginia.

A little bit about Anthony Bowen.  He was born about 1745 in Greenbrier County, Virginia to parents I have yet to discover.  He married Alice Hamilton born about 1740, daughter of Andrew Hamilton.  

He did not serve as a soldier, but gave supplies to the troops.  Some records have him supplying mutton and corn.  The people who supplied the troops were considered very important in the war effort.  

Anthony & Alice had 8 children, Andrew, William, Anthony, Jr., Hannah Jane, Susannah, James, Mary and Betsy.

He left a will, which he signed on September 11, 1787.   The will was probated at the Greenbrier County court on October 30, 1787.  The will is located in Will Book 1, page 39.  

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BOWEN_Anthony_retyped last will & testament_Page_1   BOWEN_Anthony_retyped last will & testament_Page_2

There is still a lot I don’t know about Anthony Bowen and his wife Alice aka Ellis Hamilton.  If you are reading this and are a descendant of this family, please contact me.  I’d love to hear from you. 

There are other Revolutionary War patriots in our family.  I will be adding to my DAR membership once I submit the supplementary applications. 

There have been some great documentaries on TV about the revolution.  I love to watch them and imagine what it was like for our ancestors back then.  You can watch these on YouTube too.  Here is a link to one of them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISQhKxdBnpE

Did you know that some of the people from that time in our history lived long enough to have their photos taken?  Maureen Taylor, a well known photo identification expert has published a book called The Last Muster.  I have it and it’s really fun to read about these men & women and see pictures of them.  

The Last Muster cover

Here is a link to Maureen’s blog about photo identification  http://blog.familytreemagazine.com/photodetectiveblog/ and a link to Amazon where you can purchase her book The Last Muster http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3AMaureen%20Taylor

In the meantime enjoy the 4th of July celebrations and please remember those who served and died that we might live in a free nation. 

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl
 

Copyright ©  2014   Diane Gould Hall
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.  NO USE WITHOUT PERMISSION

Wednesday, July 2, 2014

WORDLESS WEDNESDAY–MY GRANDPARENTS, HARRY & MARIE



HARRY WHIPPLE GOULD married MARIE WALLACE LINDSAY on 6 Jun 1912

GOULD_Harry & Marie on their wedding day_1912
Lindsay_Marie in front of house with porch & flags circa 1912   Gould_Harry in front of house with porch and flags_circa 1912
GOULD_Harry_Whipple_portrait photo as a young man_probably prior to 1912_retouched    GOULD_Marie nee Lindsay_headshot_1912_enhanced-1_

Oh how I miss them.

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl


Copyright ©  2014   Diane Gould Hall
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.  NO USE WITHOUT PERMISSION

Sunday, June 29, 2014

CORONER’S CASE FILE – ROBERT L. BOWDEN – AN ANALYSIS


Robert L. Bowden is my great grandfather on my mother’s side.  I wrote about locating his death certificate (after having looked for over 10 years) on Saturday, June 14, 2014 in this post EVALUATING A RECORD – IN HONOR OF FATHER’S DAY (click on the link to read the post).

At the end of that post I wrote about what I would do next.  One of the things on my list was to find out if there was a Coroner’s Report for his death.  

The following items led me to conclude that there may have been an autopsy or investigation into his death:
  • The death certificate was signed by the Coroner.
  • His death was “sudden.”
  • The burial date & date of death were 17 days apart.
I sent an email and received a reply back from the Allegheny County Coroner Case Files office that they did have a file and I could submit my request.  I downloaded the form and did just that.

Here is the request I submitted. I enclosed a check for $12, and kept a copy of the request and my check in my Evernote Notebook for the Bowden surname. 






The request was mailed on 16 Jun 2014 and I received his Coroner Case File on 28 Jun 2014.  That’s a great turnaround time!














Here is a copy of the six page report.  I have indicated the items on each page that I took notice of.  

Page 1 & 2    (Click on any image to enlarge it)
BOWDEN_Robert L_Coroner Case Report_Oct 1906_page 1_McKeesRocksPA_annotated   BOWDEN_Robert L_Coroner Case Report_Oct 1906_page 2_McKeesRocksPA_annotated

Page 3 & 4
BOWDEN_Robert L_Coroner Case Report_Oct 1906_page 3_McKeesRocksPA_annotated   BOWDEN_Robert L_Coroner Case Report_Oct 1906_page 4_McKeesRocksPA_annotated

Page 5 & 6
BOWDEN_Robert L_Coroner Case Report_Oct 1906_page 5_McKeesRocksPA_annotated   BOWDEN_Robert L_Coroner Case Report_Oct 1906_page 6_McKeesRocksPA_annotated

WHAT DID I LEARN FROM THIS REPORT?
  • Further confirmation for the date of death of Robert L. Bowden.
  • Page 1 estimates his age at about 48 yrs., page 3 estimates about 40 yrs. Based on various documents we have his age was about 43-45 yrs. in 1906.
  • The time he was actually found on the floor of the hotel & the name of the hotel.
  • Who found him on the floor of the hotel.
  • Others who were present shortly after his death.
  • The names of the officer and doctor who declared him dead.
  • The name of a friend who had known him for 16 years.
  • That his friend stated he had a wife and two daughters.  We know he and our great grandmother were divorced in 1899 and that they had two daughters.  Had he remarried since then?
  • That his friend did not know the location of his wife & daughters or the cause of his death.
  • His occupation as a Railroader which matches other records we have on him.
  • That he wasn’t known by the clerk at the hotel.
  • That the jury’s verdict agreed with the Coroner & the Doctor that this man died from heart disease.
WHAT QUESTIONS DO I STILL HAVE?
  • Had Robert L. Bowden been sick prior to his death?
  • Had he been to any doctors or hospitals?
  • On page 4  (and I didn’t underline this) the clerk said that Mr. Bowden’s friend “took” him to his room about noon.  Does that mean the friend accompanied him?  Or was Mr. Bowden in such a condition to have to be “taken” to the room?
  • Since there is no statement of an autopsy being performed on the body, how did they come to the conclusion that he died of heart disease?
  • Did one of the witnesses, his friend perhaps, know of a history of heart disease?
  • Could he have died of foul play?  Did he fall & hit his head? Was there some other method or cause of death? 
  • Is this the way all Coroner’s Case Files looked back in 1906? 
This was the first time I have ever sent for a coroner’s report on any of my ancestors.  I find it interesting and informative.  However, I obviously still have questions.  Will I ever learn the answers to those questions?  I don’t know.

I do know that I have learned more about the circumstances of my great grandfather’s death and I’m extremely happy to have this information.  

I don’t consider this case closed just yet.  I will still be trying to answer some of the outstanding questions about his life.  

I’d love to hear if you have ever reviewed a Coroner’s Case for any of your ancestor’s?  And, if so, what year it was and how was the report presented?  Did it contain more information than this report?

OTHER POSTS THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST
SURPRISE - A BIRTH RECORD WHERE IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE
VITAL RECORDS - HOW TO REQUEST THEM & KEEP TRACK OF THOSE REQUESTS 

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl 


Copyright ©  2014   Diane Gould Hall
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.  NO USE WITHOUT PERMISSION

Monday, June 23, 2014

AMANUENSIS MONDAY – BIRTH RECORDS - WHAT INFORMATION DO THEY REVEAL?


BABY FINK  &  MITA FREDA DOLLER

The other day we talked about VITAL RECORDS – HOW TO REQUEST THEM AND KEEP TRACK OF THOSE REQUESTS

I have learned to be patient when I submit record requests.  However, after about a week to ten days, I start looking through our mail with greater anticipation.  Let’s just call it “hope.”  Having no idea when the records will appear or even if they will, makes the anticipation all the more fun.

Imagine my excitement when I got the mail on June 20th and saw that envelope I had addressed to myself.  Could this be a response, so soon?  I only mailed my requests on June 10th.  You can nearly always tell by the feel of the envelope whether you have a record copy or a piece of paper/letterhead with the disappointing “sorry no record located.”  Most copies of vital records are printed on a different, heavier type of stock than letter paper.  

In this case when I felt the envelope I was hopeful because it was pretty thick. 
When I opened it, I did in fact receive ALL FOUR records I had requested.  Two birth records and two death records.  

    Time for the genealogy happy dance! One girl dancing for joy

Let’s look a the birth records first.  These are for my husband’s grandparents, Henry August Fink and Freada Emma Meta Doller.  

NOTE: If at all possible it is always a good idea to get every vital record available for a person’s life.  Every piece of evidence we gather and cite makes our identification of this person and their link to the family more concrete.

HENRY AUGUST FINK or as his birth record states BABY FINK

FINK_Henry August_birth record_14 Jan 1954_BuffaloErieNew York
State of New York, County of Erie, City of Buffalo    ______Ward

BIRTH RETURN

1.  Name of child – Baby Fink
2.  Sex – Male
3.  Color or Race if other than white – left blank
4.  Date of birth – January 14th 1893
5.  Place of birth – Buffalo Gen’l Hospital
6.  Name of father – Geo. Fink
7.  Maiden and full name of mother – Barbara Ludwick
8.  Birthplace or country of father – U.S.   Age 32     Occupation – Coachman
9.  Birthplace or country of mother – Ger  (Germany?)   Age  31
10. Number of this mother’s previous children – 2   How many of them now living – 1
11. Name & address of medical attendant or authorized person in own handwriting – John V. Woodruff (there is an address under the signature which is not completely readable)
12. Date of this return – January 15th 1893

This confirms some information I already had, such as his parent’s names and his date & the city of birth.  That information came from his descendants and from other sources such as marriage, death and census records.  What this does give me is further verification for what I already know, plus some new information such as:
  • the occupation of his father at the time of his birth 
  • how many previous children were born to his mother and how many are now living. 
  • his place of birth at the Buffalo General Hospital
Since Henry Fink and his wife Freada had four children and all of those children were confirmed, I suspect that perhaps Henry was too. 

Would the confirmation record give evidence of his name? 
How do I find out when he was named? 
Good questions.

Now let’s take a look at Henry Fink’s future wife’s birth record.

FREADA EMMA META DOLLER or as her birth record states META FRIDA DOLLER

DOLLER_Meta Freada_birth record_24 Aug 1895_BuffaloErieNew York_enhanced & made darker

State of New York, County of Erie, City of Buffalo   ________Ward

BIRTH RETURN

1.  Name of child – Meta Frida
2.  Sex - Girl
3.  Color or race of other than white – left blank
4.  Date of birth – August 24, 1895
5.  Place of birth – No. 73 Harmonia St.
6.  Name of father – John Doller
7.  Maiden & full name of mother – Bartha Killer or Bartha Koller
8.  Birthplace or country of father – Germany    Age  35   Occupation – Labor
9.  Birthplace or country of mother –     “        Age 30
10. Number of this mother’s previous children – 6     How many of them now living – 1
11. Name and address of medical attendant or authorized person in own handwriting – Mrs. N. S. Smith, 286 Bowen St.
12. Date of this return – 8/26/95

These birth records are two years apart.  The forms appear to be the same.  Although I cannot read some of the information pre-printed on the second record for Meta Frida Doller, I am using the first record as a template.  

Like the first record, this one verifies information that I already have such as date of birth and parent’s names.  Here though, the name of the child is slightly different from the name she went by in all the other records I have for her.
 
Certainly Meta Frida  is not a common name.  Her marriage record, obituary and cemetery headstone all give her name as Freada M. Fink or Freada M. Doller.  The first time I see evidence of the name Freda E. is the 1925 New York state census.  In reviewing the other documents I have for her, I see no other reference to the name Freada Emma.  
I am married to her grandson and friends with another of her grandchildren.  Both of them have always told me she was called Freada Emma Meta Fink aka Doller.  This now makes me question the validity of that second name of Emma. 

Where did that name originate? 
Did she ever use it in any legal capacity or on any records?
Good questions.

Another note about Freda’s birth record.   Her parents John Doller & Bertha Keller are believed to have been married in Germany about 1884.  They came to the United States about 1885 or 1886 (I still need to get further evidence for their immigration).  Freda’s older brother, Irven Doller was born in Germany.  Note that on the birth record it states that there were 6 children previously born to the mother, Bertha, and only 1 of them was still living.  Family lore tells that one child died on the ship on the way to the United States.
 
Will I ever find proof of birth for the other children?

All of the information on these birth records has been sourced and cited into my Legacy database.  As well as adding an image of the document to the record for both Henry Fink and Meta Frida Doller. 

More questions have been raised by looking at these documents.  But, we have also added further evidence to facts we already knew.
 
I was going to write about the two death records I received along with these birth returns, but I’m going to save that for another day.

Please share the experiences you’ve had, both good or bad, when you've sent for records. 



Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl

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