Showing posts with label Elmwood Cemetery. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Elmwood Cemetery. Show all posts

Tuesday, April 14, 2020

TOMBSTONE TUESDAY ~ My maternal 2nd great grandparents–Joseph Gillespie (1837-1908) and Susan Burgess (1841-1933)

Far left is Susan Gillespie, next to her Joseph Gillespie - the larger stone is their daughter, Louise Forsyth & her husband James F. Forsyth - the lone stone on the right is Susan Gillespie's mother, Elizabeth Gaydon Burgess (1813-1884) 

My maternal 2nd great grandparents were both born in Devonshire, England.  Joseph in Tiverton and Susan in Barnstaple. 
They immigrated to the United States in 1862 with their 2 infants, Susan (my great grandmother) and little William.

Joseph died at age 71 on 26 May 1908 in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.  His death certificate states the cause of death as Dilation of the Heart.

Susan outlived him by 25 years.  She died of Myocarditis, on 8 Mar 1933 in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan at age 91.

They are buried at Elmwood Cemetery in Detroit.  I’ve been to this cemetery a couple of times during my visits from California.  There are 32 members of my family at rest in this cemetery.

Here are the photos of their headstones


They are in Section O, Lot 53, Graves 14 & 15. 
You may visit their memorials here Joseph #21177918 and Susan #21177747.

If you are connected to this couple I’d love to hear from you.  Joseph had 9 brothers and a sister so there must be many descendants out there.

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Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl
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Tuesday, February 21, 2017

TUESDAY’S TIP–Using the Master Location List in Legacy 8

Master location list heading

I use this feature in Legacy 8 a lot.  Today I was specifically looking for a list of all the people in my database who are buried at Elmwood Cemetery in Detroit, Michigan.

There are differing viewpoints on how we should list our locations in the database.  I’m not going to talk about those options here today.  I will show you how I do my own locations and what works for me.

When I locate a burial place for an ancestor, I enter the information in that portion of the Individual’s Information screen.  Additionally, I will enter the address of the cemetery, if I have it, in the address field for “burial.”  This field is located when you click on the + sign to the right of the burial field.

Master locations a1

I like to see the name of the cemetery in the actual burial field and not have to click on the address to find it, or look in Events, if it’s entered there.  Again, not everyone does it this way, but it works for me.
 
Therefore, when I want to locate everyone who is buried at Elmwood Cemetery in Detroit, Michigan, this is how I would go about it.

Locate the Master Location list in your Legacy program.  There are a couple of ways to do this. 
  • You can go to the “View” tab and use the drop down list under “Master Lists”
Master locations 1b
  • I have the Master Lists saved to My Toolbar, so I always have quick access to it.
Master locations 1a

Once you’ve opened your list you will be able to search for the location you are trying to find.  In this case I just typed in Elmwood.
 
Master locations 2

If you want to see a map, in addition to the list you can select “show map” which is located on the right side of the list of names.  Here is the view with the map.  Note that you have a red balloon at the location and also the longitude and latitude.

Master locations 1

Something else to note when you bring up the various lists are your List Options – located under the names and your Options – located on the right hand side of the names.

LIST OPTIONS
Master locations 3 
 OPTIONS
Master locations 4

These location lists can be used whether your looking to write a blog post, like I am, or preparing to visit a particular location.  When I traveled back to Detroit I created lists of every person buried in each cemetery in Michigan.  Whether I save those lists digitally or print them out, they are of great value and save you a lot of time and effort in your genealogy trip.

Have you used these lists?

If so, how have they helped you?

To see ALL of my Legacy 8 tips please click on the tab of the same name at the top of my blog or click HERE

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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Saturday, January 28, 2017

52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks–Week #4–Elizabeth Gaydon Burgess–1813-1884–My 3rd great grandmother

Diane with her G G G Grandmother Elizabeth BURGESS' headstone-June 2007
Me visiting Elizabeth in 2007

Elizabeth Gaydon is my 3rd great grandmother.  She was born
30 Jan 1813 in Barnstaple, Devon, England. 
Her parents were Richard Gaydon and Mary Thomas

Here is the index for the baptismal record.  No image has been located.
Devon Baptisms
First name(s)    Eliza
Last name    Gaydon
Baptism year    1813
Birth year    1813
Birth date   30 Jan 1813
Father's first name    Richard
Father's occupation    Mason
Mother's first name    Mary
Baptism place    Barnstaple St Peter
Residence    Barnstaple
County    Devon
Record set    Devon Baptisms
Category    Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection   Births & baptisms
Collections from    Great Britain


The next record I have for Elizabeth is her marriage to Henry Burgess on 14 Nov 1832 in Barnstaple, Devon, England.


NOTE:  I began looking for the marriage record of Elizabeth and Henry Burgess in July 2009.  At the time I did not know what Elizabeth’s maiden name was.  I found several records that were possible, but Henry Burgess is a common name and of course, so is Elizabeth.  I keep research notes in my Legacy database and I date each entry.  Here’s the entry from my notes when I located the marriage record and my conclusions as to why I believed it to be the correct one.  Keeping research notes is critical for us as we look for information on our ancestors
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7/18/14 - I believe I have just located the correct marriage record on FindMyPast.co.uk.  I believe this based on the name of the groom - Henry Burgess, the place - Barnstaple, the county - Devon, the year of marriage is before the recorded birth year of the first child - 1832 and the bride's name is Elizabeth Gaydon - I have her name as Elizabeth Gaden from the death certificate of their daughter Susan.

Devon Marriages from FindMyPast website 

No image available
First name(s)  Henry
Last name  Burgess
Marriage year  1832
Marriage date   14 Nov 1832
Parish  Barnstaple
Place   Barnstaple
Spouse's first name(s  )Elizabeth
Spouse's last name  Gaydon
County    Devon
Record setDevon Marriages
CategoryBirth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collectionMarriages & divorces
Collections from    Great Britain


Henry & Elizabeth had 3 children that I know of – William Gayden Burgess born 27 Nov 1835, John born about 1837 (married Jane Browning) and my 2nd great grandmother, Susan born 20 Nov 1841 and lived to the age of 91.

I find Henry and Elizabeth enumerated in the 1851 and 1861 census in Tiverton, Devon, England.

Here’s the 1851 census.  From my post 2 weeks ago about Thomas Gillespie, you’ll note that Thomas and his family are living next door to the Burgess family.  Susan Burgess later married Joseph Gillespie.

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1851_Burgess_Henry plus Gillespie_Joseph and familiies 1851 England

Here’s the Burgess family in the 1861 English census.  The children are out of the house, but I notice the same boarder that was with them in 1851, Charlotte Rudaway. I wonder if she is a relative?

1861_BURGESS_Henry & Elizabeth_111 John St_Tiverton Devon England
Elizabeth is next found as the person who paid for her daughter Susan and husband Joseph Gillespie and their two children to come to the United States on 23 Dec 1862.
  
Source for this information came from a book I purchased titled Passage to America 1851-1869: The Record of Richard Elliott, Passenger Agent, Detroit, Michigan, by Mary Lou Straith Duncan  My family is listed on page 68.  This book was published by the Detroit Society for Genealogical Research c/o Burton Historical Collection.  The ISBN is 0-943112-22-2.  You can find the book here.  Scroll down to the 12th item on the page.

The transcript from page 68 gives the following information:
Date: 23 Dec 1862
No. 3120
By Whom Paid – Mrs. Elizabeth Burgess
Port of Departure – Liverpool
Destination – Detroit
Passenger’s Names – Joseph Gillespie, Susan Gillespie, 2 infts
Total cost – 56.00 (there is no notation as to what currency)

There are two Elizabeth Burgess’ listed on other pages in this book.  One is on page 64, item 3026, travel date 27 May 1862.  The other on page 113, item 4219, travel date 16 Aug 1866.  Could either one of these be our Elizabeth?  Since no ages or other identifying information is given, it’s difficult to determine.  I find no passenger records to go along with these dates.

In the 1880 census I find Elizabeth Burgess living with her daughter Susan and husband Joseph at 71 Jones St., Detroit, Michigan.

QUESTIONS: 
  • When did Henry Burgess die?  I have looked on FindMyPast, Ancestry and Family Search for a death record and cannot find one.  Plenty of Henry Burgess’ but which one is the right one?
  • When did Elizabeth Burgess come over to the U.S.?  Based on the information in the book referenced above, she did not travel with her daughter, Susan and family as only 2 adults are listed and paid for.  However, there are two other listing for Elizabeth Burgess in the book.  Could one of them be her?
I located the notice of Elizabeth’s funeral. This notice was published in the Detroit Free Press, Sunday, May 18, 1884, page 1.  It reads as follows:

“BURGESS – At the residence of her son-in-law, J. Gillespie, 71 Jones street, on Friday, May 18, at ___o’clock p.m, Mrs. Elizabeth Burgess, aged 70 years, after a long and painful illness.  The funeral will take place on Monday afternoon at ___o’clock from residence.  Friends of the family invited to attend.”

I don’t know what the “painful illness” was.  The death certificate I received from the State of Michigan is woefully lacking in detail.  I would like to see the actual register entry for her death and will look for it on my next visit to the Family History Library.

BURGESS_Elizabeth_death cert from Mich 1884

I was able to locate a copy of Elizabeth’s probate record.
 
Here is the cover of the will packet.

BURGESS_Elizabeth_Probate and will_1884-1885_Detroit_Wayne_Michigan_Page_01_cropped

Here is the first page of the probate record and my transcription of it.

BURGESS_Elizabeth_Probate and will_1884-1885_Detroit_Wayne_Michigan_Page_02

PETITION FOR APPOINTMENT OF ADMINISTRATOR

To the Hon. Edgar O. Durfee, Judge of Probate for the County of Wayne, in the State of Michigan:

            The Petition of Susan Gillespie who is the age of twenty-one years and upwards, of the County of Wayne of State of Michigan respectfully shows:

            That Elizabeth Burgess departed this life on Friday the Sixteenth day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and eighty-four leaving her last Will and Testament, as your petitioner is informed and verily believes.

That said deceased was, at the time of her death, an inhabitant of the City of Detroit in said County of Wayne and State of Michigan that she was possessed of real and personal Estate, situate and being in the County of Wayne, to be administered, and that the estimated value thereof is the sum of One Thousand Dollars, or thereabout, of which Fifty Dollars is personal estate, as your petitioner is informed and verily believes.

            And your petitioner further shows that the names and residences of the heirs of law of said deceased, and other persons interested in said estate are as follows:

            Susan Gillespie, Detroit County Wayne Mich.
            William Burgess                                  
            John Burgess                                      
            Susan Milne                                        
           
            Said Susan, William and John Burgess being children of said deceased and said Susan Milne being a grandchild of said deceased and lega__ under said will.

            Your petitioner therefore prays That said will which is placed on file for probate may be allowed and that admistration [misspelled on form] of said estate may be granted to Edwin F. Culver the _______________ named and that such other further order and proceedings may be had in the premises as may be required by the statues in such case made and provided.

            Dated May 21st A.D. 1994
                                                                            Susan Gillespie (signature)

I was able to visit Elizabeth’s burial place in Detroit, when I went there in June 2007.  She is buried at Elmwood Cemetery near her daughter, Susan and son-in-law Joseph Gillespie.  The back of her headstone says “wife of Henry Burgess died May 16, 1884 aged 69 years.”
 
You can see the front of her headstone in the picture at the top of this post.



Burgess_Elizabeth_back of headstone


You may visit her FindAGrave memorial here #2177653.

I still don’t know anything, other than names, for Elizabeth’s parents or if she had any siblings. Work yet to be done.

If you are related to anyone mentioned in this post, please contact me, we might be cousins.

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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Wednesday, November 25, 2015

FOLLOW UP ~ Why did Ralph Forsyth jump from a 9th story hotel window to his death?


Copy of FORSYTH_Ralph_plunges_to_death_DFP_8_Mar_1952_pg_3_cropped

I wrote a post last week about a newspaper article I had located in the Detroit Free Press, about Ralph G. Forsyth.  You can read that post here.

The article did not answer the question as to whether Ralph fell, was pushed or jumped to his death.  I wanted to find out so I ordered his death certificate.  Rather than order from the State of Michigan directly, which costs $34, I chose to use a service I am aware of called Genealogists.com.  You can see their list of services and request a quote for the service you want.  All I wanted was a death certificate and I already had all the information as to which film it could be found on etc.  I located this information on seekingmichigan.org (UPDATE - the new website for Michigan death records is michiganology.org)  The images of the certificates on that site are only available through 1939, at this time.

Michigan, Death Certificates, 1921-1952Name: Ralph G Forsyth
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 07 Mar 1952
Event Place:Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 55
Marital Status: Widowed
Birth Date: 10 Aug 1896
Birthplace: Michigan
Birth Year (Estimated): 1897
Father's Name: James Ferris Forsyth
Mother's Name: Louise Gillespie
GS Film number: 001973241
Digital Folder Number: 005363701
Image Number: 03254


I received a quote back from genealogists.com within 24 hours.  The quote was considerably less than $34.  I paid via PayPal and received the certificate by email the following day.

Here is the death certificate.  Everything on this certificate matches the information I already have for Ralph, including his date of birth, place of birth, parent’s names, where he worked and that he was a widower.  I have no doubt that this is the correct death certificate.

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FORSYTH_Ralph G_death cert_1952_DetroitWayneMichigan_annotated
DEATH CERTIFICATE FOR RALPH G. FORSYTH - 1952

You can see from the items I have pointed out on the certificate, that Ralph’s death was ruled a suicide.  There was an autopsy and the death certificate is signed by the coroner.  I can also see that he was buried at Woodlawn Cemetery in Detroit.
 
Ralph left behind a daughter, Anne and a sister, Catherine.  I’m sure this must have been a very difficult time for the family.  Ralph’s wife had died at a young age, back in 1940.  Then in 1950 his mother died and in 1951 his father died.  Did these deaths lead to Ralph’s decision?  Was he “despondent” as stated in the news article, because of these deaths?

I called Woodlawn Cemetery and spoke to a staff member there.  She was extremely helpful and confirmed that Ralph is buried there and what part of the cemetery he is located in.  I have now created a memorial for him on findagrave.com.  You can visit his memorial here #155345077.


I only have one photo of Ralph.  Here he is shown with his sister, Catherine and his cousin, Irene Milne.  I’m glad to have at least this photo.

FORSYTH_Catherine & Ralph & Irene MILNE_enh
LEFT TO RIGHT - CATHERINE FORSYTH, RALPH FORSYTH AND IRENE MILNE

I have been to the cemetery and visited the graves of his parents at Elmwood Cemetery in Detroit, Michigan.
FORSYTHE_James&Louise_headstone_Elmwood Cemetery_DetroitWayneMichigan
HEADSTONE FOR LOUISE G. AND JAMES F. FORSYTH, Parents of Ralph G. Forsyth














I located numerous articles about Ralph Forsyth and his wife Katherine in the Detroit Free Press.  From the articles I learned that they traveled and visited out of town relatives, and he attended various racing events.  I do hope they were happy.

FORSYTH_Ralph_off_to_attend_boat_race_DFP_28_May_1916_pg_60 FORSYTH_Mr__amp__Mrs_Ralph_return_from_trip_to_her_mother_DFP_28_Aug_1917_pg_7 FORSYTH_Ralph_attends_Indianapolis_race_DFP_28_May_1916_pg_14
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PLEASE contact me if you think you might be related, even remotely, to anyone mentioned in this blog.

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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Sunday, August 9, 2015

UPDATE ON WILLIAM H. THORPE DEATH INFO


Yesterday I shared with you my search for the death date and/or burial location of my great grandaunt’s husband, William H. Thorpe.  Please refer to that post here, if you haven’t read it THOUGHTFUL THURSDAY - Why don't I have a death date or record for William H. Thorpe?

It was certainly an adventure and a great way to spend the afternoon.

I shared my blog post on several Facebook genealogy groups I belong to.  I share posts that might be relevant to a location or topic.  One of those groups is Detroit Genealogy.  This group has been helpful to me in the past as far as offering research advice and doing lookups.

Don’t you know that before I had a chance to go hunting for William’s death certificate on SeekingMichigan.org, (Update Oct 2019 - the new website for locating Michigan death records is michiganology.org)  one the the members of the group located it for me.  Thank you Deidre Erin Denton.  This certificate gives further evidence of other information I had located.

THORPE_William H_death cert_20 Mar 1909_DetroitWayneMichigan

Then this morning, Deidre surprised me again by posting a death notice from the Detroit Free Press for William.  Further evidence and again, my thanks to Deidre.

THORPE_William H_funeral notice_DetroitFreePress_23 Mar 1909_DetroitWayneMichigan

This is why I encourage other researchers to join Facebook and get involved with the genealogy groups from all over the country and the world.  This is not the first time I have received wonderful help from a group I belong to.

The other two things I have done to complete this record for William H. Thorpe.
  • I requested a photograph of his headstone on FindAGrave.
  • I sent an email to Elmwood Cemetery asking for a copy of his burial record and/or the exact plot where he is buried.  I’ve been to Elmwood Cemetery and they have always been very helpful.
I’d certainly call this a successful research session.

Here’s hoping your next hunt turns up some great finds.

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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