Showing posts with label grandparents. Show all posts
Showing posts with label grandparents. Show all posts

Saturday, March 4, 2017

SEPIA SATURDAY ~ Great grandparent’s pictures–How many do you have?

Copy of Gould_Mae Thorp_full shot wearing fur stole in front of steps_enh
Mae Thorp Gould
Copy of GOULD_H.Norman-MyDad w-parents-grandp-Mae&Val 1918-WashDC
William V. Gould
GILLESPIE_Susan sitting on steps cropped from pic with Aunt Lulu
Susan Gillespie Milne

We each have 8 great grandparents. Depending on how old or young, you are, you may or may not have pictures of them.  Depending on the research you've been able to do, maybe you don't even know all their names.
 
Photography has been around since 1839.  I’m not going to go into the history of photography here, because I’m not an expert.  However, if you would like to learn more, there are experts out there.  One of them, I’ve followed for years is Maureen Taylor.  She is also known as the Photo Detective.  I own several of her books. She featured one of my family photos on her website in December 2008 you can see it here – Photo Clones, Duplicates in the Family.

The question today is, how many photos do you have of your great grandparents?  Here is what I have for me and my husband, Ron.

My great grandparents are:

William Gould & Mae Thorp – paternal greats

William Val Gould-headshot-circa 1900 GOULD_Mae_headshot wearing fur stole_enh

William Wallace Lindsay & Bessie Fitzcharles – paternal greats
LINDSAY_William W-repaired headshot-2 Elizabeth aka Bessie Fitzcharles Lindsay-headshot-repaired

Andrew Charles Milne & Susan Anne Gillespie – maternal greats

MILNE_Andrew C_5 x 7 restored portrait MILNE_Susan nee GILLESPIE_headshot wout hat

Robert Lee Bowden – no photo & Florence Hunter – maternal greats

Copy of Hunter_Florence Bowden

So, for my family I have photos of 7 out of 8 great grandparents.
 
Now for Ron’s family.

Ellmer E. Bright & Malissa M. Hunt – paternal greats – no photos

Thomas C. Hall – no photo & Cora E. Brown – paternal greats

HALL_Cora nee BROWN_sitting in chair_enhanced

George A. Fink & Barbara Ludwig – maternal greats – no photos

John Doller & Bertha A. Keller – maternal greats

DOLLER_John_headshot circa 1895_enh DOLLER_Bertha nee Ludwig_headshot circa 1895_enh

Sadly, for Ron’s family I have been able to locate pictures of only 3 out of 8 of his great grandparents.  If you are reading this and have any pictures of the family mentioned here, please contact me.

This has been an interesting study.  I cropped and enhanced photos as I was writing this post.  Always a good chance to review the images we have.

Because of the time frame of the lives of all of mine and Ron’s great grandparents, there were likely photos taken.  Most of the people mentioned here were alive after photography was common.  Most of them well into the 1900’s.
 
How many pictures of your great grandparents do you have?  Or maybe if you are of a younger generation, then how many pictures of your 2nd great grandparents do you have?  I’d love to see the pictures.

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Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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Tuesday, April 19, 2016

TOMBSTONE TUESDAY ~ How many great grandparents headstones do I have photos for?

  
We all have eight biological great grandparents.  I was wondering today, do I have headstone photos for all of them?  Do I even know where all of them are buried?

I went to my Legacy program and got an answer to my question pretty quickly.
 
Here are my results:
PATERNAL LINE
Gould, William Val – Yes
Gould, Mary “Mae” Eve nee Thorp – Yes
Lindsay, William Wallace – No-see my explanation below
Lindsay, Elizabeth “Bessie” nee Fitzcharles – Yes

Here are the pictures of the headstones of three of my four paternal great grandparents. 
Gould_William V_headstone_1859-1924_MtOlivetCem_DetroitWayenMichigan GOULD_May E_headstone_1862-1946_MtOlivetCem_DetroitWayneMichigan_enh




                                                                                  
LINDSAY_Elizabeth nee FITZCHARLES_headstone_1866-1914_GrandLawnCem_DetroitWayneMichigan
MATERNAL LINE
Milne, Andrew Charles – No
Milne Smith, Susan Anne nee Gillespie – No
Bowden, Robert Lee – No
Bowden Bell, Florence nee Hunter – No

It sure doesn’t look good on that maternal side, does it?  What are the reasons for not having headstone pictures for those ancestors?  I already know the answers to that question.

Milne, Andrew Charles – buried at Woodmere Cemetery, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan – no headstone.

Milne Smith, Susan nee Gillespie, wife of Andrew Charles – buried at Woodmere Cemetery, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan – no headstone.

Bowden, Robert Lee – buried at Highwood Cemetery, Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania – According to a findagrave volunteer there is no marker in the area where he is supposed to be buried.  I need to follow up with the cemetery office and find out for sure.

Bowden Bell, Florence nee Hunter – ex-wife of Robert Lee Bowden (they divorced in 1899).  She is buried at Mt. Moriah Cemetery, Kansas City, Jackson, Missouri.  There is no headstone for her.  She is buried next to her daughter Edna.  A findagrave volunteer sent me the following photograph of her burial place.

BOWDEN_Edna Wood_Mt. Moriah_Missouri

Regarding William Wallace Lindsay’s headstone

I had originally put “yes” next to his name in the the list above, for my paternal line.  Imagine my surprise when I started to post the pictures and found I didn’t have one for him.  I’ve been to Woodmere Cemetery in Detroit, twice in the past 6 years.  I’ve seen all the Lindsay headstones.  Surely I had a picture of my great grandfather’s marker.

Guess what?  I don’t have a picture.  I looked in my cemetery notes in Legacy and found out why.  Apparently his stone was buried 12” down and located by a cemetery staff member, after my cousin inquired about it.
 
I’ve submitted a photo request on FindAGrave, since I can’t be sure I’ll get back to Detroit this year.  Although I certainly hope I do.

One more item to add to my long list of reasons that I think blogging helps with our research.  Seems like every time I write, I discover something new or something I’ve missed.

How many of your great grandparents headstone photos do you have?
 
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Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl

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Sunday, September 7, 2014

IN HONOR OF GRANDPARENTS DAY


MY PATERNAL GRANDPARENTS
Gould_Harry in top hat_head & shoulder view-sepia   Grma Gould-1912-headshot
                  Harry Whipple Gould 1886-1960                                      Marie Wallace Lindsay 1888-1970

MY MATERNAL GRANDPARENTS

GrpaMilne-1926 headshot   BOWDEN_Florence in her hat & stole_1906-2
                    Joseph Albert Milne 1883-1957                             Florence Lee Nora Bowden  1888-1986

I miss each and every one of them. 

Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl


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Friday, November 15, 2013

SURNAME SATURDAY

MILNE
A little background on this name
In Scotland this ancient name is found mainly in Aberdeenshire. It is of Anglo-Saxon origin, and in most instances a topographical surname for someone who lived near a mill, derived from the Olde English pre 7th Century "mylen(e)", Middle English "mille, milne", from the Latin "molina", a derivative of "molere", to grind. The mill was an important centre in every medieval settlement, normally operated by an agent of the local landowner, and in some cases the surname may be an occupational name for a worker at the mill or for the miller himself. A family of the name Miln(e) were farmers at the Mill of Boyndie for generations. One Gilbert Milne had a grant of the chaplainry of Golspe in 1575, and John Miln was servitor of John Scrimgeour of Glaswall in 1610. A Coat of Arms granted to a Milne family of Aberdeen in 1692 depicts, on a gold shield, a blue cross moline pierced ovalways of the field between three black mullets, all within a blue bordure wavy. The Crest is a galley with oars erect in saltire proper, and the Motto, "Dat cura commodum", translates as: "Vigilance ensures advantage". The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Johannes de Molendino, which was dated 1382, in the "Episcopal Register of Aberdeen", Scotland, during the reign of King Robert 11 of Scotland, 1371 - 1390. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.
© Copyright: Name Origin Research www.surnamedb.com 1980 - 2013
Milne is my mother's maiden name.  Because of that, I have tried to learn as much as possible about our Milne family.  My grandparents were Joseph Albert MILNE 1883-1957 and Florence Lee Nora or Lenora BOWDEN MILNE 1888-1986.

Joseph Albert Milne - my grandfather
Florence L. Bowden Milne - my grandmother

Joseph & Florence were married on 11 Apr 1906 in Detroit, Michigan.  In fact, they were both born in Detroit.  They had four children, 3 daughters and a son.  One daughter, Dorothy, died at the age of 13.  Their son, Robert went on to serve in World War II.  He married twice, but had no children who lived and is now deceased.  Their daughter, Joan, married and had 2 sons, my cousins.  Their daughter, Patricia is my mother.
When I began doing genealogy research over 10 years ago, I learned that my grandmother, Florence, had also loved family research.  I had many family photos and some written notes.  What I discovered, was that one of my cousins had a box of items that had belonged to our grandma, Florence.  What I found in that box was a treasure.  TIP: Always ask your cousins or other family members if they have any old boxes or envelopes or chests that might have belonged to other family members.  What you find can be astounding.
When I asked my cousin what was in the box, he just said "a bunch of old stuff, papers and some old notebook."  I said HOLD ON!  Don't throw anything away, not even a scrap of paper.  On my next visit to Detroit I was able to go through everything and my cousin gave it all to me.  I won't bore you with everything that was in that box, but the hand written family tree and the "notebook" were worth their weight in gold.
The notebook is a spiral bound lined notebook, begun over 100 years ago by my grandmother.  In it she has recipes (stay tuned, as I post a new recipe from her notebook each Friday, right here on my blog).  Here are the two I have posted already:
Also in this notebook (or as I call it her journal), are the names & birth dates and some death dates of 183 family members.  REALLY?  Yes, there they are in her own writing.  I have so far been able to identify and connect about 100 of those people.  
She also kept a list of items she purchased for herself, her new husband, my grandpa, Joseph and her new baby, Dorothy.  
Talk about a treasure!!  "Just a bunch of old stuff."  I think not.
Here is a page from that very notebook:
On this page she lists family wedding anniversaries/marriage dates.  This is a copy of the original so I wrote on the top of it.
Good stuff, wouldn't you agree?
I knew my grandfather, Joseph, only until I was 7 yrs. old, so I don't remember him very well.  I remember the day he died and the days following that, as my Mom was really sad.  
My grandmother, Florence, on the other hand, lived until I was 36 yrs. old.  I got to know her very well.  She liked to knit, grow African violets, and boy did she like to read.  She never learned to drive so I would drive her to the library where she would check out 6-8 books at a time.  We also used to play scrabble and darned if she didn't beat me all the time.  
SPECIAL NOTE:  My grandma loved to talk about family and told me many stories through the years.  Unfortunately, I cannot remember all of them or even most of them.  Do I completely regret that?  OH YES!  So, please, if you have grandparents or aunts & uncles still living, talk to them. Talk to them now. Take notes.  Make an audio recording of your conversation.  Ask LOTS of questions.  Don't look back and say you wish you had, because that doesn't get those questions answered.  I have brick walls that would tumble right down if I had 10 minutes with any of my four grandparents.
Here is the rest of my MILNE ancestry as I currently know it.  My husband and I have a trip planned to Scotland for next spring.  I hope to be able to find out a lot more about the MILNE family.
Joseph Milne - 8 Jan 1883 - Detroit Wayne, Michigan
died 27 Sep 1957 in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
Andrew Charles Milne -  8 Feb 1856 - Aboyne, Aberdeen
  Scotland, died 8 Dec 1892 in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
married Susan Anne Gillespie
Charles Milne - about 1822 - Cruden, Aberdeen, Scotland
died 7 Feb 1877 in Aboyne, Aberdeen, Scotland
married Margaret Ritchie
Alexander Milne - no birth date known yet and death possibly before 1877
married Elspet Leslie on 11 Oct 1819 in Cruden, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
So, as you can see my Milne family does hail from Aberdeenshire, just as it states in the surname information at the top of my post.  I don't know enough about them yet, but I'm still learning.  I have gone to the website ScotlandsPeople.gov   From that site I have learned about births, marriages and deaths.  I have even ordered records, such as this one on my 2nd great grandfather, Charles Milne:
Death record for Charles Milne

If you don't leave with anything else, please remember.
Keep on looking.  
Talk to your living relatives 
Ask lots of questions.
Happy hunting,
Michigan Girl  

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