Showing posts with label thorp. Show all posts
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Friday, January 9, 2026

CIVIL WAR PENSION ~ Chaplain Wallace W. Thorp - 3rd New York Heavy Artillery

Certificate granting Wallace W. Thorpe a pension for his service in the Civil War, dated 2 Oct 1912 - he died the following year

I have long wanted to write about this particular ancestor's pension file.  However, it is the longest one I've ever received and full of handwritten declarations and affidavits.  258 pages to be exact. The thought of going through this pension file page by page and gleaning the important information, as I do with others, was daunting. I received this pension file back in November 2017.

Enter, AI - the genealogists best friend and quiet assistant. I used ChapGPT to glean information I had asked for, such as all names of family & witnesses, types of disability, places of residence and service details. Of course I proofread the entire document. But, what a relief to finally have this one done.

Chaplain Wallace Walter Thorp (also spelled Thorpe) is my half 2nd great granduncle, a half brother to my paternal 2nd great grandfather, Horace Henry Thorp, Sr.  

The opening pages of the pension file establish the administrative framework of both the invalid and widow’s pension claims for Chaplain Wallace W. Thorp. The file begins with National Archives cover sheets identifying Pension Certificate No. 771883, issued to Julia M. Thorp, widow of Wallace W. Thorp. These covers confirm Wallace W. Thorp as the veteran and Julia M. Thorp as the pensioner under the widow’s claim. ¹

Chaplain Wallace W. Thorp & his wife Julia M. Austin 
The writing on his photo, received from a descendant reads - Rev. Wallace W. Thorpe, Chaplin for the New York Volunteers, Wappingers Falls, N.Y.  April 11, 1898

Wife / Widow

·       Julia M. Austin Thorp

·       Listed as widow on pension certificate

·       Receiving pension as of Dec 1, 1913

·       Pension dropped June 18, 1914 (likely her date of death or remarriage)

Letter from Julia & Wallace's son, Theodore C. Thorpe, letting the Commissioner of Pension know that his mother died 10 Jun 1914

Early administrative cards identify Wallace W. Thorp as Chaplain, 3rd New York Heavy Artillery, appointed on 27 August 1864. War Department correspondence confirms that his resignation was accepted without misconduct. ⁷

The Declaration for Pension executed by Wallace W. Thorp states that he served as Chaplain in the 3rd New York Heavy Artillery and was honorably discharged. In this declaration, Thorp affirms that his disabilities originated during service and that he had not rendered service for the Confederacy nor engaged in disloyal conduct. ⁴

Nature of Service

·         He was a Chaplain, not a combat soldier.

·         Chaplains often:

Ø Conducted services

Ø Visited hospitals

Ø Assisted surgeons

Ø Wrote letters for soldiers

Ø Performed burials

Ø Provided moral support

From the earliest pension filings onward, Thorp consistently reported these conditions, which were used to justify his pension.6 8

    ·       Severe swelling in both limbs
·       Acute sickness lasting 10+ days
·       Bed confinement
·       Needing watchers at night
·       Possible sciatic or rheumatic condition
·       Later use of crutches (though some witnesses did not recall this)
·       Paralysis agitans (likely Parkinson’s disease)
·       Bronchitis
·       General debility

Original invalid pension Claim No. 495,960. These cards record multiple pension acts under which the claim was reviewed, including the Acts of July 14, 1862; March 3, 1873; and June 27, 1890.²

An increase application under the Act of February 6, 1907, lists Wallace W. Thorp as residing in Binghamton, Broome County, New York, and confirms that he was already on the pension rolls prior to that date.³

Indexes to Special Examiner reports within these pages list early witnesses, including Dr. E. K. Everett and Dr. O. E. Carrier, whose depositions were later incorporated into the evidentiary record.⁵


Thorp was awarded an invalid pension under Claim No. 495,960, later receiving Certificate No. 102,273. His pension was repeatedly reviewed and increased, including under the liberal provisions of the Act of June 27, 1890, which required only proof of inability to perform manual labor. ⁹

The size of Civil War pension files varies greatly from several pages to several hundred.  However, they are worth their weight in gold in regards to the information contained in most of them. From the names of parents, spouses, siblings, neighbors to locations where the pensioner lived. You may also find actual vital records of births, deaths or marriage. And some lucky researchers have also received images of the soldier. I have not yet received one, but still hoping.

Other items of interest in this file include:

 Sister-in-law

·         Mrs. James Peterson

·         Identified as sister to Wallace’s wife

·         Lived in Oshkosh, Wisconsin

·         Mention in witness testimony

WITNESSES & ASSOCIATES

Oshkosh, Wisconsin witnesses

·         Dr. Ira Kizertel – dentist, testified about Wallace’s health

·         O. E. Barrier – church member, testified about illness

·         Mrs. O. E. Barrier – housekeeper, testified about family and health

·         Morris Jones – businessman

·         E. P. Sawyer – prominent Oshkosh figure

·         M. Williamson – church deacon

·         E. Class – sexton of Congregational Church

·         Trickwine – church member    

1908 pension declaration witnesses

·         Vandrell & Chammy – residents of Lestershire

·         Say. Andersen – resident of Lestershire

·         William White – Notary Public

·         Mabel Vergason – witness 

RESIDENCES (Pages 1–25)

Wallace gives a detailed list of where he lived after the war:

1867–1869
·         Oshkosh, Wisconsin
1870–1890
·         Marshalltown, Iowa
1890–1895
·         Center Point, Iowa (written as “Centerville” but context suggests Center Point)
1895–1907
·         Millington, Illinois
·         Falling Waters, New York
·         Lestershire, New York (now Johnson City)
Birthplace
·         Skaneateles, New York Born January 17, 1833
 
Residence at time of 1907–1908 pension filings
·         Lestershire, Broome County, New York

He married Julia M. Thorp on 30 May 1861 in Binghamton, New York, officiated by Rev. Zachariah Paddock. The couple resided continuously in Binghamton, Broome County, New York. ¹⁰

Notarized record of the marriage of Wallace W. Thorpe to Julia M. Thorpe (although her maiden name was Austin) in Binghamton, N.Y. on 30 May 1861

Wallace W. Thorp died on 17 November 1913, aged 77, while still a pensioner. Following his death, his widow Julia M. Thorp filed a dependent pension claim, which was approved after submission of affidavits proving marriage, cohabitation, and absence of remarriage. ¹¹

Pension card showing that Wallace W. Thorpe died 17 Nov 1913 and the bureau was notified on 12 Dec 1913 (see bottom portion of card)

You can clearly see the value in these documents for knowing where to look for your ancestor, records pertaining to his or her life, family members etc.  

Footnotes 

1. National Archives pension cover sheets, pages 1–2.
2. Pension index and administrative cards, pages 3–4.
3. Increase application under Act of Feb. 6, 1907, page 5.
4. Declaration for Pension by Wallace W. Thorp, page 7.
5. Index to Special Examiner’s Reports, page 9.
6. Depositions of Wallace W. Thorp, pages 17–20.
7. War Department service verification, pages 100–101.
8. Early depositions and medical testimony, pages 1–25.
9. Pension increase determinations, pages 51–99.
10. Marriage certification and affidavits, pages 13–14.
11. Widow’s pension claim and affidavits, pages 9–25.

If you are related to or connected to anyone in this blog post, please get in touch.  Let’s exchange information.

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl

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Saturday, April 5, 2025

SUNDAY'S OBITUARY ~ Julia Maria Austin Thorp (1845-1914)

 

Following my post from two days ago, I am presenting the obituary for Julia Maria Austin Thorp.

Published in the Press and Sun-Bulletin, Binghamton, New York,
13 Jun 1914, page 7

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl

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Friday, April 4, 2025

FRIDAY FINDS ~ Finally figuring out Julia Austin’s parents

 

Julia Maria Austin Thorp

Today I’d like to talk about the wife of my half 2nd great granduncle, Julia Maria Austin.

It wasn’t until I was a few years into my research that I realized my paternal 3rd great grandfather, Monson Thorp, Sr. had been married prior to him marrying my 3rd great grandmother, Lany Cooper.

In finding that out, I came to also learn that his two oldest children, Ann Maria and Wallace Walter were children born to this first wife, Ann Eliza Armitage.

Then I was fortunate to visit with a 3rd cousin and his wife in Northville, Michigan and obtain a photo of Julia Austin. That’s when I learned she was the wife of Wallace Walter Thorp, my half 2nd great granduncle.

In doing further research on Julia I have located her death record, burial location and obituary.  BUT, I had always wanted to find her parents and/or siblings. None of those records gave me the names of her parents.

There is an 1850 census in Chenango, Broome, NY that has a Julia, age 5 in a household with parents (William & Mary Austin) and siblings.  Then in an 1855 NY state census this same family is enumerated and Julia is 10 yrs. old.  Is this “our” Julia?  That has always been my question.

By the time of the 1860 census I find a Julia Austin living in the Geer/Gere household with her age being 16 and she is listed as a domestic.  The importance of this is her location, which is Skaneateles, Broome Co., New York.

That’s the place her future husband Wallace Walter Thorp was born and grew up. By about 1860, he was attending Auburn Theological Seminary, just 13 miles from Skaneateles. 

I don’t know how Wallace & Julia met, but they were certainly in the same area at the appropriate time.

While I was writing this post a light bulb went off in my head.

You all know how this feels.  You’ve researched a particular ancestor off and on for years and SUDDENLY it dawns on you!


If 16 year old Julia is working in a household with a husband and wife, could they be part of her family?  Is Elizabeth Geer her older sister? 

Off I went back to the 1850 U.S. census and the 1855 NY state census to see who was enumerated in that household that I suspect to be Julia’s family.  GUESS WHAT?!

There she is, Elizabeth Austin age 17, an older sister of Julia.  And also in the household is baby Sarah Ann Austin, Julia’s younger sister.

CLICK ON ANY IMAGE TO ENLARGE IT

In the 1855 NY state census on the same page as Julia Austin’s family, is her sister Elizabeth, with new husband, Fayette Geer and Julia’s youngest sister, Sara. Although the census lists “sister” as the relationship between head of household, Fayette Geer and Sarah Austin, she is really a sister to his wife.

I have just put this family together!!! Woohoo!!

Why sometimes, does it take us so long to put the pieces together?  I honestly don’t have an answer to that.  But, it has happened to me many times.  I think as we research we remember different details and then they just fall together.

This process made me smile today. 

What are your recent finds?  I’d love to hear about them.

OTHER POSTS THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST

A STATE CENSUS RECORD THAT LEADS TO A LOT MORE QUESTIONS–The Monson Thorp family 

WHAT I LEARNED FROM ONE SINGLE PAGE OF A CIVIL WAR PENSION FILE–1864 –Edith E. Thorp widow of Walter B. Thorp

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl

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Wednesday, January 8, 2025

WEDDING WEDNESDAY ~ The marriages of Henrietta Barnes in 1869 and 1876

 


You know how it happens that you go back through a folder, or a record and you find something that you missed or just passed over?

That is just what happened to me as I was reviewing Civil War Pension files this weekend.

This particular file was for Henrietta Barnes Thorp Bovie in the name of her deceased husband, Stephen B. Thorp. 

Stephen B. Thorp served as a Private and later a Corporal in Co. F, 122nd New York Infantry from 1862-1864.

Stephen Thorp is my paternal 2nd great granduncle.

In scrolling through my online PDF file for this pension I located 2 beautiful marriage certificates.  I had looked through the file before, but it’s been a few years.  What I hadn’t done is pull these marriage certificates and add them to my Legacy file. I have no explanation for that oversight. 

But, here they are.  I don’t have many marriage certificates that are this nice among the records I have.

Marriage of Stephen B. Thorp to Henrietta Barnes - 15 Sep 1869 in Yorkville, Kalamazoo, Michigan

Stephen and Henrietta were married after he discharged from military service.  Sadly, less than 2 years later, on 14 Jun 1871, at age 31, Stephen died from “lingering consumption.” There were no known children born to this couple.

Five years after Stephen’s death, on 19 Sep 1876 in Yorkville, Kalamazoo, Michigan, Henrietta married Dr. William Bovie.  This couple had 5 children.

Here is their marriage certificate.

Marriage of Henrietta Barnes Thorp to Dr. William Bovie, 19 Sep 1876 in Yorkville, Kalamazoo, Michigan

Dr. William Bovie died 25 Apr 1901 of pneumonia.  Henrietta lived 33  more years and died a widow, at age 84. 

She saw two of her 5 children predecease her.

When she applied for a pension in the name of her deceased first husband, she was 81 years old and needed the extra income.  It is not stated in this particular file whether she was ever granted the pension.

Have you discovered items you overlooked or missed entirely? If so, I’d love to hear about them.

Reviewing our research is generally a good practice.  I know I’ve found my own omissions and errors in doing so.

If you are interested in my posts for Civil War pension files please click here.

If you are related to or connected to anyone in this blog post, please get in touch.  Let’s exchange information.

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl

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Tuesday, December 29, 2020

TUESDAY’S TIPS ~ New cousin connections made from watching a 10 minute video


No matter how long we have been researching our ancestors, we are always learning something new.  Whether we attend classes at our local society, read any of the wonderful blogs by my fellow bloggers (there are over 3,000 of them), get a tip from a fellow genealogist, watch webinars, learn from Facebook groups,  or attend a conference in person (when that becomes possible again).  There is no shortage of learning opportunities.

I decided to watch a quick 10 minute video offered by Legacy (the software program I’ve used for years).  This was a short tutorial about how to make connections on the 23&Me website for DNA.

While my DNA and my mother’s are on that site, as we both tested there.  I’ll admit to not using the site very often (I use the Ancestry DNA site all the time).  All of us have our favorites.  I’ve tested or have results uploaded to all the major DNA sites.

The tutorial I watched was called Connection Requests at 23andMe by Michelle Leonard M.A., PgCert.  As I said before it is 10 minutes long and rated as Beginner.  Click here for a link to the video. 

After watching it, I went right to 23 & Me and began inviting some of my matches to share their DNA with me.  Now, we all know that sending any kind of message to someone on any of the sites is a “longshot.”  Will they respond?  Did they even receive my message? The chances of getting a response are low (I speak from experience and information from others).  But, I had not really sent requests for more than a handful of matches on 23 & Me over the past 7-8 years.

I wanted to try and make contact with some of the people in the DNA tree automatically built on the website.  Knowing that some of the suggestions I’ve seen on that tree are quite accurate and others are not.  I was going for the low hanging fruit.  These are the people at the bottom of the tree created using my DNA.  Here is an image showing how these people appear in the automatically created tree.

(Please click on any image to enlarge it) I have blurred the names for privacy 

I sent 9 requests to connect, using the suggestions from the video.  As suggested I kept it simple, no attached message, just a request to share DNA. This allows me to see the matches we share in common and to view the chromosome browser.  Viewing the chromosome browser allows me to paint that match into DNA Painter.

How many would you expect to hear back from?  I thought I’d be very fortunate if one person responded. 

SURPRISE!  I heard back from 3, accepting my invitation to share.  They all responded within a day. None of the other 6 have responded...yet.

In the past few days I’ve been communicating with all 3 of those matches and have new cousins to add to my tree, as a result. 

As a matter of fact I was so excited to figure out the match between me and a match named Cheryl, that I spent 4 hours building a tree on Ancestry, for her family.  She only gave me 2 names to go on, Edward Riggs and Audrey Gerkin.  No dates, no places.  Using Blaine Bettinger’s Quick & Dirty trees idea, I began building.  I used obituaries, census records, birth, marriage and death records to try and build this tree back several generations.  We’ve all seen CeCe Moore and others go through this process to find unknown parentage and criminal suspects.  I’ve built several of these kinds of trees before, but cannot claim much success. 

NOTE:  When you do build a Q&D tree it should be private AND UNsearchable. You don’t want anyone else to use it or take items from it since you are not conducting exhaustive research on each person and do not want to proliferate errors.

Within four hours of starting that Q&D tree, at 10:59 p.m. I located who I believed to be our Most Recent Common Ancestor!  WOW! I was excited and very proud of myself. 

Now what?  Time to go down the descendant line from that common ancestor and really look closely to make sure I’m correct.  This is where you slow down and look at all the records as in our regular, due diligence, research.

What was my conclusion?  I was right on the money.  Cheryl and I share my 3rd great grandparents, Monson THORP & Lany COOPER.  They are my 3rd and her 4th great grandparents.  She's a generation younger than I am.  I also share DNA with her mother, a woman who’s name I have seen numerous times on various DNA sites and had no idea how we connected…..until now. 

Here is an image of that Q&D tree


Now, Cheryl and I are talking back & forth and she told her mother about our discovery. There are things they didn’t know about some of the lines I have information about.  We will talk more after the new year and they may have some photos and other information for me.  I will gladly share anything I have with them.

On another note. One of the other matches and I have also been in touch and she actually lives in Detroit.  We are also connected through the Thorp line, but via another route.  She has all her parent’s family research and lots of information.  We also plan to talk after the new year.

ALL of this from a 10 minute video.  Never stop learning and never stop looking. 

If you have any comments or you’ve had a similar experience, I’d love to hear about it.

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl

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