Showing posts with label shaky leaves on ancestry. Show all posts
Showing posts with label shaky leaves on ancestry. Show all posts

Monday, January 8, 2018

A CHECK BOX ON ANCESTRY and HOW I FINALLY LOCATED THE 1870 CENSUS FOR MY 3rd GREAT GRANDPARENTS

US fed census match all

I’ve been researching my Thorp family for the past 15 years.  This is a direct line for me and I want to learn as much as I can about them.  My Dad always talked about his paternal grandparents, William Val Gould and May Thorp Gould.  He called his grandmother Mema (pronounced Mee Ma).

During this research I was able to locate every census for my 3rd great grandparents, Monson Thorp, Sr. and his wife Lany Cooper Thorp…….except the 1870 census.  They married on 12 Apr 1835 in Cato, Cayuga, New York and had 6 children.  I located them in the 1840, 1850, 1860 and 1880 federal census records.   I also have several newspaper articles about Monson Thorp.  I have death certificates and wills for Monson and Lany.  From everything I found about them, they never left New York.
 
But, that 1870 census eluded me.
 
Yesterday, I was doing research for an upcoming blog post about their daughter Mary J. Thorp.  In doing so, I went yet again to those census records trying to find Monson and Lany in 1870.  While I was looking at census records for Mary J. Thorp, I decided to try once again to find Monson and Lany in 1870.

I’ve been doing this for over 15 years.  I’ve learned a LOT during that time.  I consider myself to be an experienced researcher, who is still learning every day.  I continue to attend seminars, conferences and classes each year to learn more.  We never stop learning.

I’m certain I have searched the census records using variations of Monson’s first and last name, along with variations for Lany.  Those names are often misspelled or transcribed incorrectly.  So, what was I doing wrong in my searches?

Had I done this exact search before?  Searched ONLY the 1870 census records?  Used this specific criteria?  I may never know, but it worked this time!!!!

I searched All Collections>Census and Voter Lists>US Federal Census Collection>1870 United States Federal Census and entered my criteria.

SPECIAL NOTE:  I kept screenshots after I made this find yesterday.  I just tried to reproduce the search and COULD NOT get it to come up with the result.  WHAT!  WHY?  I’ll tell you why, because up at the top of the search screen, next to the “search” icon is a box that says “Match all terms exactly.”  GUESS WHAT?  That box was checked by default.  Are you kidding me?  Every single time I went to the collections that “match all terms exactly” box is checked.  Yesterday, that box must have been unchecked for some reason. This means I need to go back to a LOT of my prior searches for other ancestors.

Back to my find.  Here’s the screen shot with the “match all terms exactly” unchecked.

THORP_search criteria

And, look what came up from my search.  ONE record and ONLY one.  Notice anything wrong with the surname spelling?  Regardless of that horrible misspelling, I knew this had to be my Munson.

THORP_search results

I selected the record and here is the index and access to the image.  The surname is wrong, (indexed as THERSSE), but all the green stars are correct for my ancestor and his wife Lany.

THORP_search results-2 - Copy

And finally the image.  Here they are at last.  Living right where I suspected they’d be, in Skaneateles, New York.

 Copy of 1870_THORP_Monson & Lany_SkaneatelesNY

My take a way from all of this is that darn check box.  Keep an eye out.  Maybe I’m the only one who didn’t think to look for that default “match all exactly.”  Did you know about it?

US fed census match all

If you have similar stories about having searched for a record for years and then having found it, I’d love to hear about it.

OTHER POSTS THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST

FOLLOWING LEADS ON ANCESTRY– One thing leads to another

OCCUPATION FILES ON ANCESTRY–1600-1995–What are they? Have you seen these?

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl


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Saturday, March 15, 2014

SHAKY LEAVES ON ANCESTRY CAN LEAD TO NEW RECORDS

Ancestry top of page

Researching is always fun to me because of the new records & information I run across all the time.

Today I opened Ancestry and there were those inevitable shaky leaves.  I’m not one who will look at each and every one of them, every time I open the website.  However, I do tend to take a “look” to see who they are highlighting.   This has proven valuable to me on many occasions.  

Today I saw a reference to one of my GILLEN clan, Sara Wilson Gillen.  I clicked on it and low and behold I found a record I had never seen before.  And, I don’t mean just a new record for this ancestor, but a new record I didn’t know existed.  Name of this record?

U.S., APPOINTMENTS OF U.S. POSTMASTERS, 1832-1971

Have you seen this group of records before?  

Sure enough, there she is on lines 2, 3 & 4.

FRIEL_Sarah_appointment as postmaster_1934 & 1938_AshlandBoydKentucky

What can this record tell us?

- the obvious – she was working as a Postmaster
- it puts her in a place & time

Of course I entered this information as an Event/Fact in my Legacy database right away.  I included the image and entered this as a source.

What I did next…

I went right back to Ancestry and looked at what other records they might have for me for Sara Wilson Gillen Friel.

I found a 1942 Ashland, Kentucky city directory which lists her as the Postmaster.

1942-FRIEL_Sara G_postmaster_AshlandBoydKentucky

Now I will enter this city directory listing in Legacy as an Event/Fact, including the image.  And of course making sure I cite my source.

There is more on Sara Wilson Gillen Friel, and I intend to document all of it. Adding it to my Ancestry tree and my Legacy database.

I thought I would look in the Ancestry card catalog and see if I can find the U.S. Postmaster list there.  

NOTE:  I have found the card catalog to be quite evasive when it comes to giving me any results.  I’ve been using the Ancestry site now, almost daily, for over 10 years.  Sometimes what seems to me to be a certain keyword will bring up nothing.  

Example:  In the card catalog under keyword I typed in “postmasters.”  The first result I got was “no records found.”

Then I typed in the Title field “Appointment of U.S. Postmasters” and got the exact list that I have cited above in this post.  

Out of curiosity, I cleared all fields and then went back to the “keyword” field and typed in “postmasters” again.  This time the Appointment of U.S. Postmasters came right up.  I can’t figure it out.  My work around is that I just play with both the Title & Keyword fields until I get some kind of results that may be of use.

Let me know if you’ve found any new or unusual records lately.  We know there are thousands of records on various websites and we can only begin to know what a few of them are.  

OTHER POSTS THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST:
Following Leads on Ancestry
Millennium File on Ancestry

Happy hunting,

Michigan Girl

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